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crazy loose non-drive side spokes
06/25/13 at 1:59am
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I had a wheel set built several months ago. After about 300mi of NOT checking my spoke tension I noticed almost all of my non-drive side spokes were loose to the point they flopping around. My bike is SS with a non-ss specific hub. The rims are light racey Velocity Blunt SL's laced to DT 350's with double butted Sapim spokes. Before I pay to have these wheels retensioned and trued is there possibly something else wrong that could've caused the failure? I put several thousand miles on my GF Duster SS set without a hitch.

Is this the result of a 1500g wheel set? Do they need tensioning often?
Result of a non SS hub on an SS?
Issue with the build? Maybe I should've tensioned them after the first few rides. Like car wheel lugs
Or do I just put down too much HP?  Cool
  
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Re: crazy loose non-drive side spokes
Reply #1 - 06/25/13 at 2:06am
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Natedilla wrote on 06/25/13 at 1:59am:
 

Is this the result of a 1500g wheel set? No
Do they need tensioning often?  No
Result of a non SS hub on an SS?  No
Issue with the build?  Yes 
Maybe I should've tensioned them after the first few rides. Like car wheel lugs No
Or do I just put down too much HP?  Cool  Possibilty

  
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Re: crazy loose non-drive side spokes
Reply #2 - 06/25/13 at 2:12am
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Thanks Jerry. Thats both good and bad news I guess
  
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Re: crazy loose non-drive side spokes
Reply #3 - 06/25/13 at 2:22pm
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Natedilla wrote on 06/25/13 at 1:59am:


Is this the result of a 1500g wheel set? Depends on rider weight and riding style
Do they need tensioning often?  No
Result of a non SS hub on an SS? No
Issue with the build? Very likely
Maybe I should've tensioned them after the first few rides. Like car wheel lugs I recommend doing this after a new build.  I have seen some new build hubs settle in (Chris King) and need very minor retention but more often not. 
Or do I just put down too much HP?  Cool

  

If the initial spoke tension and stress relieving is done during the building process, most times there are little to no issues afterwards.  Sounds like spoke tension was your biggest culprit.  

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Re: crazy loose non-drive side spokes
Reply #4 - 06/25/13 at 6:23pm
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It also sounds like the builder may not have used a locking spoke prep while building.
  
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Reply #5 - 06/26/13 at 3:24am
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is there a way i can check this on my bike to make sure i dont have the same problem?  what should the torque read on my spokes?
  
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Re: crazy loose non-drive side spokes
Reply #6 - 06/26/13 at 12:58pm
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Park TM-1 tension meter.  Easiest way to check without one is to grab the spokes and give them good wiggle.  You can also pluck them and listen to the tone differences.  Lots of info on the interwebs.  Tension meter is best but lots of folks use the sound method.
  
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Reply #7 - 06/26/13 at 4:53pm
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what note should i tune them to?
  
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Reply #8 - 06/26/13 at 5:46pm
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650b flat
  
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Reply #9 - 06/26/13 at 6:00pm
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im running tuebless brah no need for dat flat
  
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Reply #10 - 06/26/13 at 6:47pm
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Tooobless still get flats...true story homie
  
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Re: crazy loose non-drive side spokes
Reply #11 - 06/26/13 at 7:58pm
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tubeless and 29ss wont never happen just gotta learn dat finesse, i teach ya one day bro

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