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Reply #20 - 07/01/13 at 4:06pm
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and you guys need to cool it with the hate, hippybiker has good reason to complain.  its not what we all want to hear but its got some truth behind it
  
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Reply #21 - 07/01/13 at 4:14pm
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This place is a breeding ground for hate.
  
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Reply #22 - 07/01/13 at 5:26pm
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isitwinteryet wrote on 07/01/13 at 4:06pm:
and you guys need to cool it with the hate, hippybiker has good reason to complain.  its not what we all want to hear but its got some truth behind it



He's complaining because he can't ride one trail. BFD  

Go road ride, urban assault, head up north, ..........

Like we all aren't bummed by the 40 year rains we've had lately.



Tom F wrote on 06/30/13 at 10:23pm:
Hippy:
Lets look at the big picture at LNSP. Granted one or two or 20 MTB's do not leave much footprint. But when looking at the total usage during the month taken from the trail counters in place we see a different picture. Just Hawk loop which has an infrared counter that combines both MTB and pedestrian we find that 1200 people on average use the trail per month. Laurel is getting near 200 bikes per week. We do not know for sure how many walkers. That is for the days those loops are open. The count is similar for Monbo. When that many feet and wheels roll over a wet or marginal trail then major damage occurs. As has been pointed out that is a 30.5 mile system. We have only about 6 rangers for the whole park. The regular volunteers to maintain the system are stretched thin and probably fewer than the number of rangers. In short we do not currently have enough regular volunteers to maintain the system. To answer your question that volunteers get to ride because they do trail work, the answer is NO. We cannot use motorized equipment to haul tools in to where work needs to be done. We do not get to ride an atv to do trail work. Only one or two are licensed to use a chainsaw, and then only to cut trees that are already downed.  Please have some consideration for the situation. We fought hard for many years to gain MTB access into the State Park System, and the Itusi has become the gold standard for future builds in the NC SP system. Hopefully our current legislature will not cut any more funding and allow the system to mainain at least the current access, and perhaps see growth in other facilities. The LNSP system has reached it MTB capacity as far as mileage. 
Thank you for your consideration.



This is the only truth that matters if you want a sustainable trail system. ^^^

Working hand in hand with the parks and respecting their ground rules is the only option. Rather than taking it to a public forum for all to see, why not be proactive?

  
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Reply #23 - 07/01/13 at 9:05pm
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you're missing the point captain buzzkill
  
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Reply #24 - 07/01/13 at 9:48pm
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isitwinteryet wrote on 07/01/13 at 9:05pm:
you're missing the point captain buzzkill


Actually, you're missing the point...

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Reply #25 - 07/01/13 at 10:30pm
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isitwinteryet wrote on 07/01/13 at 9:05pm:
you're missing the point captain buzzkill




Mmm, nope. Pretty much nailed it.


Sit around and b*tch about problems vs doing something that benefits all. 

I choose to go out, Macleod in hand, and work to improve everyone's experience rather than cry and whine that parks and rec won't take my side.
  
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Reply #26 - 07/01/13 at 11:01pm
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deucedeuce wrote on 07/01/13 at 3:33pm:
yeah, no clt trails gonna be open this summer...prolly spring and winter too. people are gonna have to DWI and just go ride peewees and signal thrill


Duece duece:  Does the term " have to DWI" and ride PeeWees mean Driving While Intoxicated to ride PeeWees? I don't understand what you mean. 
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Reply #27 - 07/01/13 at 11:43pm
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Everybody sing with me..."a hornet's nest Ahhh a hornet's nest!"

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Reply #28 - 07/02/13 at 12:59am
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Tom F wrote on 07/01/13 at 11:01pm:


Duece duece:  Does the term " have to DWI" and ride PeeWees mean Driving While Intoxicated to ride PeeWees? I don't understand what you mean. 
Thanks.



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Reply #29 - 07/02/13 at 10:50am
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I'm going mud bogging at Fisher Farm today, found a back way in.
  
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Reply #30 - 07/02/13 at 12:02pm
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Actually, you're missing the point...

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"we got so much money lets build more trail than we can monitor/maintain lol.  close de trails at first sign of puddle so maintenance is unneeded."

since they get so many riders maybe charge a park fee to use the trail?  those fees could pay for part time maintenance guy to help take care of things?  its called thinking outside the box people
  
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Reply #31 - 07/02/13 at 12:19pm
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Yeah, Fees....That's way outside the box...Don't think it's ever been done before Grin...Not the worst idea but far from outside the box...Although it doesn't really seem to be a maintenance issue...It's just raining way to much right now....Sometimes nature just needs to prove itself....
  
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Reply #32 - 07/02/13 at 12:26pm
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isitwinteryet wrote on 07/02/13 at 12:02pm:


"we got so much money lets build more trail than we can monitor/maintain lol.  close de trails at first sign of puddle so maintenance is unneeded."

since they get so many riders maybe charge a park fee to use the trail?  those fees could pay for part time maintenance guy to help take care of things?  its called thinking outside the box people


If we have paid maintenance guys, then we'll be able to ride whenever we want?
  
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Reply #33 - 07/02/13 at 12:35pm
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I feel bad for people that live on the north west.  Rains all the time there, they must never ride.  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #34 - 07/02/13 at 12:39pm
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Yeah, Fees....That's way outside the box...Don't think it's ever been done before Grin...Not the worst idea but far from outside the box...Although it doesn't really seem to be a maintenance issue...It's just raining way to much right now....Sometimes nature just needs to prove itself....


right, missing the point

the complaint was the trail closing for days for a 20 min shower bc ranger smith saw a puddle in the parking lot.  hippieguy was understanding of the big storms and major downpours.  sheesh
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Reply #35 - 07/02/13 at 12:40pm
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26er_guy wrote on 07/02/13 at 12:35pm:
I feel bad for people that live on the north west.  Rains all the time there, they must never ride.  Roll Eyes


Oh NOE

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Reply #36 - 07/02/13 at 2:41pm
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Robert C. wrote on 07/02/13 at 10:50am:
I'm going mud bogging at Fisher Farm today, found a back way in.



Robert: After you mud bog at Fisher today, give a report.

  
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Reply #37 - 07/02/13 at 2:58pm
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If I remember correctly, they just had a "WORK" day at the Park. They had 20 to 30 spots open to sign up and help. How many came out?? (I think it was five people). 
Mike, how many Volunteers????  We are all ticked about the Noah like rain we have gotten. There are better ways to deal with it than calling some one who's doing there job a "TRAIL NAZI". Especially on a site that promotes Trails and maintaining those trails. Come on people we are better than that...
  
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Reply #38 - 07/02/13 at 4:02pm
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All one has to do is some trail work and see what damage is done to the trails. Already the new berms, IMO, at Sherman are suffering from being ridden while wet. And just because there was a light 20 minute shower where you were at doesn't mean there wasn't a complete deluge nearby. A few weeks ago I hiked up Mt. Rogers. Barely got a drop of rain on me. But driving from the trailhead to Tazewell, VA, there was debris everywhere. And least one forgets, the ground has become saturated and so isn't going to dry as quickly. The plus side to that is that doing trail work the clay isn't like breaking bricks and quite workable. Since I can't ride bikes I'm off to play basketball. Some just need to find other outlets for times like these.  Smiley
  
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Reply #39 - 07/02/13 at 11:34pm
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Hey Headsup, if you are asking about the workday on June 1st, I had 3 volunteers plus myself. Not as good of a turn out as last year, but we worked hard and finished alot of 
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