26er_guy wrote on 07/01/13 at 4:14pm:

No. This place is a target for hate.  You're looking in the wrong place.

But what about those chaps across the pond? They even use their rain gear! Of coarse I'm joaquin (Pheonix)!

IPA talkin' 

True, true. They do have some beautiful armoring on their trails!

I bought mt first Mountain Bike in 1987. I still had a couple of years to ride almost anything that my freedom allowed me to do. Hiking trails,service roads, gravel roads. Wet or dry. Then the naysayers stepped in and started closing the trails. We fought back with organizations to keep trails open and to be able to build and maintain our own. Nc State parks let us(for some reason, we are not looked upon as regular residents on NC) build trails in their(our) parks. I can understand the reasoning for managing the trail to keep it available to all users. But,what is the point of keeping a trail closed for 3 more days after a rain event. Monday ,I was walking on the Adler trail, and cut through the wood to the Laurel Connector trail. It was the same condition as it was when I rode on Sunday. Damp. I truly don't believe the trails are managed in a good manner. If you choose to close 30+ miles of trail . Then you should base it on more info then water collecting in certain parts. I look at closing a trail for multiple days as being a trail closer similar to the trail closers of the early 1990's . It's showing what is LNSP largest user group how they take our intelligence for granted. But anyways, the fight is gone from me, and I am no longer interested. I'm sure there are some dirt roads somewhere............

Impaler 58 wrote on 07/03/13 at 10:59pm:


The problem really is a lack of man/woman power in the NC State park system.  There are only 2-3 rangers at most at LNSP and are responsible for more than just making sure they survey all 30 miles every time it rains. I know it sucks not being able to ride and I know you think it's horribly unfair to you but unless you have enough money to give to the park to hire a few more people to manage the park, you are stuck with what we've got.  Yes, they are over zealous in protecting that resource but I'd rather have that than the alternative.

There's no need to armor/boardwalk the whole trail.  It's not really a matter of trail durability because it's already proven to be durable with minimal maintenance. It's a matter of administration.  In a perfect world it would be open sooner after rains.   

Guess what...the world ain't perfect.

what kind of robots do you have

The Cycle Path wrote on 07/04/13 at 3:04am:
it is not that they survey all 30 miles. From What I've witnessed being out there. Is that they survey the connector trail from the parking lot to the road, and use that as a basis to close 30 miles of trail.