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Spiders at BYT and RRT
08/06/13 at 9:39pm
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I've had the (dis)pleasure of being the first one at both of these trails within the last few weeks, and aside from the clearly awesome feeling of being covered with webs, I often get these little guys crawling on my arms or hanging off my handlebars.  Black with a huge butt, lots of white spots all over their back.

Any idea what they are, and how worried I should be about a bite? 

I have a picture but I oddly enough can't attach one in this post or if I make a reply.
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Reply #1 - 08/06/13 at 9:49pm
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they dont eat much
  
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Reply #2 - 08/06/13 at 9:55pm
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Crab spiders.
  
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Reply #3 - 08/06/13 at 10:23pm
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Ridefour15 wrote on 08/06/13 at 9:39pm:
I've had the (dis)pleasure of being the first one at both of these trails within the last few weeks, and aside from the clearly awesome feeling of being covered with webs, I often get these little guys crawling on my arms or hanging off my handlebars.  Black with a huge butt, lots of white spots all over their back.

Any idea what they are, and how worried I should be about a bite? 

I have a picture but I oddly enough can't attach one in this post or if I make a reply.


Something like this?

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No worries.

Just brush them off.
  
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Reply #4 - 08/06/13 at 11:44pm
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They are from the Poo Tracks,,I knew it...Mutant spiders are out there.....also Big ugly Ticks,,,found one on me about the size of a dime...
  
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Re: Spiders at BYT and RRT
Reply #5 - 08/07/13 at 12:20am
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Honestly one of the reasons I avoid riding early am. Yeah I will brush them off... Then STOMP the crap out of them. They'll still be plenty spiders left for insect control( yes, I know they have a beneficial purpose)
  
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Reply #6 - 08/07/13 at 12:25am
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Those are either Spined Micrathena Spiders and Spiney Black Orb weavers. I've had the displeasure of clearing many of them this year as well and I'm not a big fan of spiders at all.
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Shearing the shaft member after a hard ride is acceptable in my book.
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IntheBush wrote on 08/06/13 at 10:23pm:


Something like this?

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No worries.

Just brush them off.


No, the last one I got a good look at had a lot of little white spots, but a whole lot of them, concentrated on the back. Didn't seem to be any kind of pattern.
  
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Reply #8 - 08/07/13 at 12:50am
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Ridefour15 wrote on 08/07/13 at 12:25am:


No, the last one I got a good look at had a lot of little white spots, but a whole lot of them, concentrated on the back. Didn't seem to be any kind of pattern.


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Like Painkiller points out, if they're spinning webs in between trails or in trees they are most likely orb weavers.. Many varieties. They are most active in the fall.

Here's another common variety.

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You'll often see this one with a big web in the middle of the trail in the early morning. 

They can get as big as your thumb. I've got them in the face before. It's not fun.

If you want to avoid them don't be the first one on the trail, especially in the fall.

They're virtually harmless. Although they can bite, it's rare, mild and is not a necrotic venom.

Just be glad you don't live in Australia.

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Reply #9 - 08/07/13 at 3:37am
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These spiders that spin the webs between trees are harmless, though they creep you out. I've gotten hundreds on me over the years (not at one time) and have never had one bite me. Spiders bother me as much as anybody, but that's life in the country. 

And for that matter, so are ticks. Just check yourself when you get home.
  
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Reply #10 - 08/07/13 at 12:01pm
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I think I've just never seen those "horns" before on their body, which threw me off from that first picture.  I figured I'd ask because one of my first times at BYT worker-rider warned me about some spider whose bite will create a hole at the site of the wound, but I forgot the name of it.

As for the ticks, I've had one on me from RRT this season and luckily haven't found any more yet!
  
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Reply #11 - 08/07/13 at 2:03pm
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Ridefour15 wrote on 08/07/13 at 12:01pm:
I think I've just never seen those "horns" before on their body, which threw me off from that first picture.  I figured I'd ask because one of my first times at BYT worker-rider warned me about some spider whose bite will create a hole at the site of the wound, but I forgot the name of it.

As for the ticks, I've had one on me from RRT this season and luckily haven't found any more yet!


A Brown Recluse bite will leave a large hole.  But they stay on level ground, so encountering them on a mountain bike would be rare. 

A co-worker of mine was bit by one in his sit in Kayak.  It left a huge hole in the middle of his shin.
  
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Re: Spiders at BYT and RRT
Reply #12 - 08/07/13 at 2:15pm
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Many spider's venom is "Necrotic" or kills flesh.  That's how they eat their prey.  Bite them then turn them into a smoothie. Tongue  Had a couple from Fisher a few weeks ago.  Just small little spots that looked more like a burn than anything.  Keep it clean and some antibiotic ointment on it to keep from getting infection.
  
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Reply #13 - 08/07/13 at 4:39pm
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The black and brown widow are spiders you also want to avoid.

The black widow is widely known, but here's a pic of the brown widow. 

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Many people get these confused with the brown recluse. North Carolina is normally considered outside of the range of the brown recluse and many bites blamed on the brown recluse are actually widow bites, wounds of an infectious nature, etc... Many other spiders resemble the brown recluse and brown widow (such as the funnel web, wolf spider, etc..), so when in doubt err on the safe side.

Here's a map of the normal area of the brown recluse;

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There have been confirmed brown recluse sightings in South Carolina (very few), as the site below illustrates, and it's thought their territory may be expanding. So I would say coming across one in NC is not out of the question. Again, better to be safe than sorry. Fortunately, like widow spiders they generally like hidden places near ground level. 

I've often said that the day widow or brown recluse spiders start spinning webs between trees is the day I quit mountain biking and retire to Sun City or something.

Here's a great site listing poisonous spiders/snakes by state and info about each.

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Reply #14 - 08/07/13 at 4:45pm
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they've always had them in va too thats a bunk map bro
  
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isitwinteryet wrote on 08/07/13 at 4:45pm:
they've always had them in va too thats a bunk map bro


Could be.

But then, the earth used to be flat too.

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Reply #16 - 08/07/13 at 4:52pm
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The webs annoy me more than anything. I've genuinely considered clamping a thin forward-angling stick to my handlebar to break the webs before my face does it. But there's the risk of impaling myself on the stick or poking an eye. That and the fact that it would add a few grams to the bike...
  
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