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Volunteerism = an elevated sense of self importance.

26er_guy wrote on 12/09/13 at 2:21pm:

Look who's calling the kettle black. 

The Cycle Path wrote on 12/09/13 at 6:36pm:


Exactly! Responsibility for things which they are not. 

The context of my comment is specific to this thread and not to volunteers in general.

This thread would be so much better with a little Rage Against the Machine playing in the background.  Bulls on Parade comes to mind.

JR wrote on 12/09/13 at 11:08pm:

Dafuq?! You eat some of those mushrooms from Fisher yesterday?

JR wrote on 12/09/13 at 11:08pm:


Out of all the words that could describe that post, ironic isn't one I'd pick.

I'd like to see that vid clip dubbed with Elmer Fudds voice telling those wascally widers not to wide the twails when wet.

26er_guy wrote on 12/09/13 at 2:21pm:


Thank you for giving me such a well learned lesson. I will subscribe to your comedy blog now.

Back to the original point of this thread...

There is actually a great article on Pinkbike today about riding/racing in Mud:
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The very last paragraph of the article is what all the banter here boils down to:

"PB:Thanks for the tips, but isn't riding in the mud bad for the trails?

True, riding in the mud can certainly cause some damage, but there are places where you'd 
get just a few dozen rides in each year if you only rode in dry weather. Of course, there 
are also locations where riding in the mud will leave a rut behind you that could take a year 
to disappear. Your best bet is to assess the conditions and make a few inquiries with the 
locals about whether it is acceptable to ride in the rain. It might not be the best idea to poach 
your local desert singletrack on one of the few wet days that the area might have, and 
doing so could earn you some bad karma that will come back to haunt you. Ever wondered 
why you're the only one in the group to keep getting flat tires? Trust us, it's been proven 
that a*sholes go through more tubes than nice guys."

PASA got lucky with the geology of Poston (unicorn bones & eagle sh!t) that it can be ridden when damp (except maybe lake loop. That turns into a sloppy mess).

Maybe we as a club need to find an area for an "All-Weather" trail...?
I realize land managers probably don't want slop holes for trails on their land, but if the building intent was all weather, then special techniques/requirements could be utilized?

I'm all for having a trail to ride when it's sloppy outside (besides Poston).  An extra couple pounds of mud clinging to your frame will just make you stronger and make you clean out/repack bearings.

Could this type of trail be built locally?