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Half-a-fork Little Ring Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 507 Location: Charlotte, NC Joined: 11/26/11	Sherman sand issue 06/15/14 at 7:00pm	Print Post
	Let me start off by saying that Sherman is still one of the Crown Jewel trails of our area. I rode out there today and it still rocks but there are some very sandy areas, especially in some turns. Is there a way to combat this? As a new trailbuilder I am trying to learn. Sand is great for drainage but once it becomes your primary base I would think that it could become a problem.

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Skinner23 Newbie Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 25 Joined: 04/20/10	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #1 - 06/15/14 at 7:28pm	Print Post
	I have never seen it as sandy as it was there today.

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RobP Big Ring Offline Posts: 2235 Location: Mint Hill Joined: 10/30/01	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #2 - 06/15/14 at 7:30pm	Print Post
	Rain helps but then people get mad that the trail is closed.

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Racnfirecapn Coaster Bike Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 125 Location: Concord Joined: 07/22/13	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #3 - 06/15/14 at 7:57pm	Print Post
	It was pretty loose early this morning in spots. I fell victim in one of the faster turns on the last section of the main loop. Just lost the front wheel. I'm not complaining though. I thought Sherman was in great shape this morning but you could tell that a lot of rain fell in a short period of time. The sand is really just all the loose stuff collecting in the low area when the rain washes it off the trail surface. It usually firms up in a day or two. On a side note there was a really large tree down on the main loop right after the 9th time you cross the old fire (escape) road. Definitely need a saw to get this one. I could help someone on Tuesday morning if no one gets it before then. I have a saw if that helps. Someone just let me know.

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ludey Small Cog Offline Probably gonna ride today Posts: 273 Location: Indian Land, SC Joined: 04/26/11	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #4 - 06/15/14 at 8:10pm	Print Post
	It was def super sandy this morning... its prob due to the downpours and will clear up somewhat like was said above. It's like you can't win, too much rain, sand, too little rain, sand, uhg. I had multiple close calls at washing out, only because I'm used to it being super grippy. There are actually three big trees that could use a saw. One from a little while ago on LL, which has formed a navigable go-around, the one mentioned above, which requires a dismount, and another that is partially intruding on to the trail but is still easy to navigate (can't remember if this is on LL or after - its def after the LL one I mentioned). Must've had some big storms out there last week! Still a great ride though, place was jammed!

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The Cycle Path IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline Treasurer '11 to '18. Trail Chair '12-'18, '20-'21 Posts: 11858 Location: Lake Norman Joined: 08/04/03	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #5 - 06/15/14 at 8:54pm	Print Post
	The sand is from normal erosion. I can't see that its honestly an issue to have to deal with. I never have and have been building since 2000.

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Robert C. Big Ring Offline Leaves are the ultimate trail maintenance tool Posts: 1806 Location: Available upon request Joined: 11/22/04	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #6 - 06/15/14 at 10:08pm	Print Post
	Easy fix this fall, let the leaves do their thing.

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catsruletn IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline My bike demands rights!! Posts: 2262 Location: Charlotte NC Joined: 07/20/06	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #7 - 06/15/14 at 10:56pm	Print Post
	It gets super sandy at Francis Beatty too when it doesn't rain for awhile. Just the way it is. You learn to take it easy on the turns. Or you wind up on the ground.

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TR Newbie Offline Posts: 2 Location: Harrisburg,NC Joined: 08/28/13	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #8 - 06/15/14 at 11:36pm	Print Post
	Just pedal pus.

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ChosenOne Little Ring Offline Posts: 600 Joined: 11/02/08	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #9 - 06/15/14 at 11:38pm	Print Post
	Just load up the front end and push it through the turns... don't worry about sand... you won't be on it long enough for it to effect you unless you tense up and grab the binders.. Just push and roll through it... you'll make it every time

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RobP Big Ring Offline Posts: 2235 Location: Mint Hill Joined: 10/30/01	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #10 - 06/15/14 at 11:41pm	Print Post
	Rig something like this to the front of your bike? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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FPO Newbie Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 42 Joined: 06/09/14	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #11 - 06/15/14 at 11:43pm	Print Post
	Roads typically have a consistent riding surface. Pedal on!

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MountainCycle Big Ring Offline Unelite p***^. Heartbreak lover. Posts: 1062 Joined: 02/05/09	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #12 - 06/15/14 at 11:50pm	Print Post
	. Is there a way to combat this?. [/quote] Man up and go ride Steve's place.

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853stolen Little Ring Offline Work & Ride with THTB! Posts: 609 Location: Charlotte, NC Joined: 02/27/09	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #13 - 06/15/14 at 11:55pm	Print Post
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Banjopickin Big Ring Offline Spinnin' knees & Hittin' trees since '85 Posts: 1805 Location: Pisgah National Forest, USA Joined: 08/01/11	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #14 - 06/16/14 at 12:03am	Print Post
	Grab a corona, lower your air pressure, enjoy da beach mon!!! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) watch out for these guys though... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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RobP Big Ring Offline Posts: 2235 Location: Mint Hill Joined: 10/30/01	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #15 - 06/16/14 at 1:03am	Print Post
	I like where this thread is going.

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KitJ BBQman Big Ring Offline This is gonna hurt! Posts: 2525 Location: Matthews, NC Joined: 01/20/09	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #16 - 06/16/14 at 2:43am	Print Post
	Sherman has been sandy for the past 4 or so years, it is a normal progression in erosion. When it rains, all of the finer particles of soils wash away, and you are left with sand. This has been a topic of "discussion" for many years on this forum, and I have to agree with Robert C that if you leave the leaves a couple of years you will add back some of the loam that gets washed away. There are other that will disagree with this, and that is fine. I will be the first to admit that I am not a scientist, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. And for Mark...

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JimShoe Big Ring Offline Posts: 1147 Location: Charlotte Joined: 12/17/06	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #17 - 06/16/14 at 2:47am	Print Post
	Greenways tend to be sand free, rock free and mostly root free Sand will be with us as it is the nature of our soil. I do agree I think the leaves should be left.

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JimShoe Big Ring Offline Posts: 1147 Location: Charlotte Joined: 12/17/06	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #18 - 06/16/14 at 2:51am	Print Post
	I was going to try and ride SB in the morning. But instead, if I get up early enough I'll drag my chain saw out and see what I can do. Chain is a bit dull from cleaning a family cemetery weekend before last. If anyone can pinpoint the locations for me to save some walking

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sager Big Ring Offline Waiting for my next ride! Posts: 1343 Location: Charlotte Joined: 11/02/08	Re: Sherman sand issue Reply #19 - 06/16/14 at 12:10pm	Print Post
	JimShoe wrote on 06/16/14 at 2:51am: I was going to try and ride SB in the morning. But instead, if I get up early enough I'll drag my chain saw out and see what I can do. Chain is a bit dull from cleaning a family cemetery weekend before last. If anyone can pinpoint the locations for me to save some walking I've put an X where I believe the two most serious ones are. The third is somewhere past the second on the LL. Not sure exactly where.

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