Not sure I would have waited that long before a good tire rub took place to get thier attention

Best way to get their attention is to put your front wheel on their back and I don't mean back wheel. I guess that's why lots of riders ride where their not supposed to. I love music as much as the next person, but some folks have them things in their ears all the time. That's not being aware of your surroundings. What's wrong with listening to all the sounds of being in the woods riding your bike?

Taylor Swift?  You should've revoked his man-card on the spot.

I run, I ride and I like to listen to music when I  do BUT I don't like getting run over  by  bikes or cars.
So .....    :)   
and everyone will be Happy Happy Happy
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SycoCell wrote on 07/21/15 at 1:34am:


You follow her on Twitter don't you? 

BigBikeMike wrote on 07/20/15 at 11:43pm:


+1

Last weekend I was stuck behind a jogger that was going from the left side to the right side of the trail with the beat of the music. It was loud enough that I could hear it, I hollered between tracks, but that didn't work. Finally on an open section I went around and looked back only to find out I was number 1. 

Newbies are easy to spot so I will give them extra time to figure out what they want to do. Some though are really challenged by what to do next, guess decision making is not one of their stronger points as well as what "on your left (or right)" means, sometimes followed by my saying "your other left". 

BigBikeMike wrote on 07/20/15 at 11:43pm:


Thread winner right here.

Cycling/running/etc outdoors is for the experience.  Why take away one of your senses?  Both for taking it all in and for saftey...  But, unfortunately being rational with these kinds of people is usually a moot point.

To the OP, I imagine the other person is on his running forum talking about the rude impatient bicyclist that almost ran him over the other day and all his buddies are talking about how terrible mtn bikers are... 

flynbryan19 wrote on 07/21/15 at 1:54pm:


But he was a biker!  He makes us all look bad

I couldn't hear the music over my hubs anyway 

MTBman1127 wrote on 07/21/15 at 8:41pm:


I was just about to complain about those with Chris King Hubs disturbing my peaceful ride.

madss wrote on 07/22/15 at 2:34pm:



+1

SycoCell wrote on 07/20/15 at 9:31pm:



The issue is not the headphones but the indignant nature of said a$$hole.  He/She knew you were there but decided that they were going fast enough so  f>%* you.
I run into a few of these $hitheads around the Charlotte area trails.

Usually a gentle tire rub is all it takes to break their confidence and they will let you pass.

I had someone (a friend) rub my rear tire during a race once, and SHE was the one that went down. I laughed all the way to the finish line.

I'm patient with people who are slower riding out in front of me because, nine times out of ten, I AM the slower one riding in front of someone else looking for a decent spot to pull over and put a foot down. I wouldn't rub their tire primarily because I don't want to cause a wreck. 

I'm not against a gentle reminder, however, and if you are skilled enough to pull off a tire rub without causing a pile-up, and someone refuses to yield, I say go for it. 

However, being slow, or startled, or new, or jaded from being rudely passed before, doesn't excuse unleashing a ridiculous string of obscenities at a fellow trail user who is just trying to get by and enjoy his or her ride. To be honest, he's lucky the OP didn't swing his bike to a stop in the middle of the trail and teach him some manners. 

Which brings me to a simple question. What kind of genius doesn't consider the following: How smart is it to start cursing at some random stranger on a lonely trail in the woods? - a guy who is apparently fitter than he is (and doesn't listen to T Swift), in a place with no cameras or witnesses (even when it is packed you can ride trails like carpet, toilet, or weigh station and never run into another cyclist) in a place like whitewater with hundreds of cars and dozens of similarly dressed cyclists (all disguising their features with helmets and shades) and plenty of crowds to disappear into afterwards?

Stupid. 

People who go out on the trails and treat other people poorly (when 99% of MTBers are cool) represent everything that trail riding is not.

Robert C. wrote on 07/24/15 at 1:37am:


Why are you? 

Seems like you boys can dish out but get offened when it comes your way.

Enoch wrote on 07/24/15 at 12:23am:


Jerry, I’m feeling the brotherly love, but don't take it personnel.  Several people on here claim this is the thing to do.  Tire tapping might even be in the IMBA mtn bikers multi use trail users guide for all I know

Look, having been doing this for quite a while, I can say that I am/have been faster than 95% on the downhills, and slower than 99% of you on the climbs.  So I’ve been on both sides of the equation.  I also have small kids who ride who can get all up in the way.  99.9% of people are good with the kids.  But there is 0.1% of lap timers that can’t wait 30 sec for my 6 year old to figure out what to do.  They don’t say it, because they know they can’t, but the look on their face tells it all. 

Let’s look at the OP’s incident.  He says he was behind this guy for 1.3miles in his granny gear.  Really?  First, that would be at least half a Taylor Swift album.  Second, can you tell me where there is a stretch of trial 1.3 miles long that there is not a section wide enough for someone to pass out right.  Especially someone who is sitting back there fully recovered in granny gear.  I bet there is not 300yrds of trail anywhere in charlotte that you could not find a place to pass out right.  So I do question some of the specifics here.  We need both sides of the story.
   
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the runner here is not a jerk .  I’m just saying any one who hits someone else on purpose, in the end, is the bigger jerk.   And I fully admit I've been there.

Yes a rider.  I don't think anyone is advocating running over a runner with their bike.

Spoke wrote on 07/24/15 at 4:13pm:


disagree.  It happens to me frequently at the WWC.  Happened to me the other day on the Lake Loop and several times this summer.

I've had it happen to me also.  Only at WWC though.

Spoke wrote on 07/24/15 at 4:13pm:


I don't think you read it correctly.  I didn't tire bump anyone.  I only do that to friends.  I yelled out many times about my presence - nothing.  I literally said outloud to myself "hmmmm okay maybe he's deaf?".  Legit thought that.

Phil_S wrote on 07/24/15 at 10:40am:


Okay, granny gear wasn't my absolute lowest gear - I embellished that...But it definitely wasn't a normal pedaling gear.  My point with all this is, I'm not the guy that rolls up on people and tries to pass them immediately.  I give plenty of time.  Hell, I'm not in a rush and say that verbally to 95% of the people.  So, unless I'm racing, or you're really being a dick (this instance), I will not intentionally go around you on a single track portion of a trail without you expecting it.  I realize everyone has their own skill level - he definitely wasn't a newb by any means.  And being on the Lake Loop, I expect things like this.  It's the easiest trail - for all levels of riders. But if you go out on a black and don't listen up, well, you're just an idiot.  You're on an advanced trail - act like an advanced rider and pay attention to fellow riders.

Again, this wasn't supposed to be any arguments between anyone here, it was just a reminder that if you have headphones, turn it down a bit so you can hear fellow riders.  AND DO NOT curse out riders that come up behind you - luckily I'm not the type that has any God complex or gets egg'd on easily.  That wouldn't have ended well for him.

Specialist wrote on 07/24/15 at 7:39pm:


THIS IS ALL I'VE BEEN SAYING! Sheesh.

Except I use lake loop as my warm up- I love that trail.

Is it time for the bunny with the pancake on its head yet? That's all I want to know.

That's not a bunny. 

It's not the right bunny.