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03/07/16 at 2:21am
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To those of you who tirelessly give of your free time to help build and maintain trails, this is not directed at you and I and all the other trail coordinators are forever grateful for your sacrifice!   Smiley

To those that don't...what are your reasons for not volunteering to build and/or maintain local trails?  I'm looking for incite to find ways to increase volunteer participation.  If we could just increase the participation by 2X we would finish in half the time and get to ride more on more trail.

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Reply #1 - 03/07/16 at 4:28am
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Probably should put this in the General Board so non-trailworkers will read it.
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Ill be honest I've been telling Wes that I will be coming out to help at BLS for a bit now. With race season just getting into full swing it has meant a lot of extra hours and some weekends, so when I get Sunday off the last thing I want to do is hop out of bed early or a lot of times I just over sleep... Ok i am just lazy  Tongue 

I try and make up for it by clearing the trails as I ride em but I need to get better helping on construction as well. As stated in another thread about FF I think some evening work would be beneficial for some as well as maybe some occasional meetings later in the morning maybe starting at 10am ish may help at least on my end. 

Just trying to get the discussion rolling~!

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I rode Wildlife and Fox yesterday and stopped a few times to move debris from the trails. If some riders would do like Saltnpepper and stop to remove limbs and debris, that would be a great help in itself. He reported a tree on Norwood last week including the number of the sign it was close to. That was a great help to me.
  
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I have trouble getting out on sat to do trail work because of the kids.  If there was some way to safely occupy the young ones while we worked... Might get a few more parents to turn out.
  
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A few weeks ago I had a conversation with two riders in the parking lot at MD. I talked to them about helping on the trail. They both stated that they never look at the THTB site or FB page to even know if there is work planned. They just ride when they feel like and are otherwise not involved. To some of us, this may seem strange, but they seemed like normal people, and I suspect they are in the majority.

It may make sense to try to recruit trail work at the trails themselves with signage or even try to get riders to "register" when they ride and contact them when work days are planned. Not an easy thing to do I know... just a suggestion. Some of my successful recruiting at SWDP was in-person.
  
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mayford wrote on 03/07/16 at 3:20pm:
I have trouble getting out on sat to do trail work because of the kids.  If there was some way to safely occupy the young ones while we worked... Might get a few more parents to turn out.


You may be on to something here.  I have helped a handful of times at a couple trails but trying to commit to a big chunk of a Saturday or Sunday when you have kids (and a wife) that don't embrace you grooming bike trails as a worthy charitable deed can make it even harder to get out there. 

People are selfish with their free time too.  We are already away from our families when riding so trail work is adding insult to injury as far as family time is concerned.  My wife is actually pretty supportive with my riding because she knows with my job it's a good way to decompress.  I would bring my kids out there to play in the woods while we worked though.  Maybe the they could help with grooming while others did the harder work.  Or, maybe the Trailblazers and Divas could host a trail riding clinic for the kids while dad did some trail work?  That way mom gets the morning off assuming she is not a rider.  I'm not saying it's fair but making it seem less like work and more like something you could enjoy with the family on a weekend morning may draw more people out.  AND THANK YOU to those of you that unfairly shoulder the workload despite all of this...
  
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Good feedback! I have been thinking about posting signs when we have trail work days at Fisher. Keep it coming!
  
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.... trying to commit to a big chunk of a Saturday or Sunday when you have kids (and a wife) that don't embrace you grooming bike trails as a worthy charitable deed can make it even harder to get out there. 
...THANK YOU to those of you that unfairly shoulder the workload despite all of this...   


+1.  

I try to make up for it my being a paying member of THTB and pick up stuff on the trails when I ride.
  
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Nuke wrote on 03/07/16 at 5:02pm:


+1.  

I try to make up for it my being a paying member of THTB and pick up stuff on the trails when I ride.

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Sunday is daylight savings time, Lets coordinate a weekday after work crew. Non-riding days, trail wet days during the week we can knock some trail work out. We have how many social riding days? Lets organize a weekly social trail work day then get food/beer afterward and further discuss trail work planning!
  
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With careers, family, or other obligations, just getting the time to ride can be hard. Finding the time to also add volunteering efforts to build and maintain trails may prove next to impossible. I fight the same fight in my house too!

Thankfully the THTB understands this struggle is real and there are alternatives which are just as important as slinging shovels.

Simply click and join THTB! No shovels and no judgment if you can't come build trails with us, but the same satisfaction knowing you are a part of building and maintaining one of the best urban trail networks in the nation. 

When you join the club, your membership funds IMBA/SORBA and THTB. These membership monies directly fund the acquisition of new trails and the cost of maintenance for the existing trail here in Charlotte. The funds are also used to advocate the sport of mountain biking in the southeast and beyond.

Currently membership levels are around 300 active members, which is great! But there are over 2200 members on this page who clearly care about mountain biking in Charlotte, otherwise why follow (I am guessing there are only a few trolls on the page)

So wether you like or don't like the THTB, you can't argue with the results of their hard work providing a few hundred miles of trails, with a lot more coming (you have no idea and they can't wait to start sharing the future once the agreements are signed). 

So click below, sign up, grab a beer and crack it open! Take a sip and enjoy your hard day of trail building from the comfort of your computer. 

Maybe we can push our membership to 500+ in short order.

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I like to work solo and on my own time since it is limited....I like chainsaw strike missions.....I'm not super social so having a TC text me with a specific need is my preference...ID be happy to share my number with any trail boss....



  
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FredRubble wrote on 03/07/16 at 10:09pm:
I like to work solo and on my own time since it is limited....I like chainsaw strike missions.....I'm not super social so having a TC text me with a specific need is my preference...ID be happy to share my number with any trail boss....





Your hired,  when can you start... I have a few Sherman projects. Actualy killed 2 of them today.
  
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I think a dedicated "trail work days" sign at each trail head would catch more attention. Also, making work days a more social event might bring out folks who are unsure about what's involved. +1 on the kids clinic idea.
  
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I know some people like myself work on weekends so it's hard to make trail workdays that are on those days.  I've helped Enoch several times at SB/RRT (when i use to live in the area) and it was through text message or a phone call because we knew each other from riding the trail and I know Enoch likes to do work on rainy days when the trail is closed and I've been lucky enough to be off those days or I try to make it after work.

In saying all that I am moving back to the area and will be living a hop, skip and jump from NMP so the trail coordinator can pm me and I will be glad to help out when I can.  And i will still help out Enoch at Sherman when time allows since I've rode 100s of miles there and still plan on doing!  Smiley
  
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The Cycle Path wrote on 03/07/16 at 2:21am:
To those of you who tirelessly give of your free time to help build and maintain trails, this is not directed at you and I and all the other trail coordinators are forever grateful for your sacrifice!   Smiley

To those that don't...what are your reasons for not volunteering to build and/or maintain local trails?  I'm looking for incite to find ways to increase volunteer participation.  If we could just increase the participation by 2X we would finish in half the time and get to ride more on more trail.

Shoot....


I think a good start would be to have better signage around working days at the trailheads.  Make it clear, highly visible and keep it up to date.  If there is nothing on tap, we take down the old signs.  The social aspect should also be there, make it fun and be sure that people know they can volunteer for as long or short as they like, one hour is better than nothing.  

As an aside to all of this, I was out doing light maintenance at PRP last night and a rider stopped to talk and say thanks for my work.  After talking with the guy for a minute he introduced himself as Jack Crouch (founder of the THTB’s for those who may not know).  I spent about 30 minutes talking to him and getting a history of the club and the local trails.  It was a very cool experience and would never have happened if not for being out doing trail work.  I have always enjoyed being on the trails, whether riding or working, and that experience gave me an even deeper appreciation of everything we have in Charlotte.  Always keep in mind in those who came first and built what we enjoy today and keep in mind that it is up to us as the riders to keep pushing forward.  
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Reply #18 - 03/10/16 at 9:41pm
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I very much agree with the points given.  I fall in to many of the same reasons...

   Home - Family - Child -  Wife really fill up Saturday obligations... . If I am able to get a little bike action  - its difficult to know - where to go Help and volunteer vs going out to actually just ride for a few hours.
   Sure this forum has postings for opportunities to work. But the threads are confusing for exactly when / where / and what to try to look at for a short notice of when to help, it takes effort to dig thru threads.... when i could aready have bike in car - on my way...
   
If I show up at a trail to possibly help late or off time - How do I know where to go? 
Perhaps Including  a   "THTB  Trail Work underway notice" = and a notice of where about on the trail would be cool- THEN! What if someone or random came to a trail to ride - saw that  and said....hey - instead of Mileage - Ill put in some help working. just have to find the group! 

With this - many trails locally have info stands = that us exactly where trail work info should be posted,  Post the plans - What does the trail coordinator want to work on -- When and Where!! ... If you see it - its harder to ignore!   

What if our local bike shops were encouraged to help keep a posting of 'local trail work opportunities posted -  in your face to get those bike riding customers thinking about helping out. I don't go to the bike shop often - but ive never seen much affiliation with it! 


Saturdays -- TO ME  - - They are the most packed with life... 
       What about - Sunday Afternoons? I never see MUCH sanctioned trail work offered outside of Saturday mornings .Looking now- there are a few fisher sunday offerings. 
      ..But by Sunday Afternoon you're kicking around the house - already done your weekend Bed Bath and Beyond trips - and completed your duties for the weekend give an option by offering a different TIME outside of Prime time Saturday weekend morning time to offer help.
  
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Reply #19 - 03/11/16 at 2:11pm
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I hear what all of you are saying and will take some of suggestions under advisement.  I would like to make a few points, though.  In case not everyone knows.

1.  Trail work days are not just posted to the forums and if they are the current ones aren't more than 4-6 posts deep.  They are posted on the home page of this website (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) in case some of you automatically short cut to the forums. Wink (Many do, I realize.)  Work days are also posted on our Face Book page as an event.

2.  Not all work days are on Saturdays.  The Renni workday this weekend is on Sunday and Fisher Farm work days have pretty much been Sundays from 8:30am to 12:30pm since November of 2004.  We try to accommodate as many schedules as we can but it really boils down to when the trail coordinator or another volunteer in charge has time to lead a work day. Smiley  I work at the shop every Saturday so unless TFraser leads, it's Sundays.

3.   Almost every trail (with a few exceptions, Pat. Wink ) have club signage that directs volunteers to our website.  I don't think more, less or different permanent signage is the answer. (If they already don't read the signage at the kiosks/trail heads, why would they read different signage?)  "Mmmmm. Trail!  Mmmm. Ride!  Mmmm. Beer!"  repeat. lol!

I have thought about doing temp signage at Fisher on the kiosk.  Just need to make time to put it out there. Smiley

I am looking for a few volunteers that I regularly see to help lead a crew on Saturdays.  Hit me up if you're interested!   

BTW The reason you don't see Sunday afternoon work days is probably because it's easier to do trail work first and then ride afterwards. Wink IMHO
  
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