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Reply #40 - 03/30/16 at 1:25pm
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Well, I wasn't naming names because I don't think you're the only one Scott. I used quotes around "attack" because I didn't mean a serious attack, like a physical or verbal barrage. I meant that a few times (in the first few years I've known you, Scott your method HAS IMPROVED and become nicer lately) when a rider has ridden by us digging the delivery has seemed to alienate people. I only used the word attack because it implies an aggressive, abrasive manner that could offend a person; I probably should have used a "nicer" word, but hell Scott, I'm not PC and I wasn't trying to offend anyone. That's why I signed my personal name too. 

However, I TOTALLY understand why you'd sound that way. Like you said Scott, after 25 + years of doing work and not getting help from people who ride past and say they will, I'd be "bitter or angry" too. (Again quotes, cause I mean those words in a certain context)

Typically, I like to work alone. If someone rides past me and says, "Thanks for working," I'll say "You're welcome. I'm glad to do it." I don't try to convince them to come work; I don't think they will. 

If someone rides past me and says, "Thanks for working, how can I help?," then I will say "You're welcome! Here take a shovel or go to this website and look for dig days." The difference is what type of greeting I get from the rider. If they don't offer to help, they most likely won't help ever. 

Scott: Keep doing what you're doing. Keep talking to people how you're talking to people. You're up next for the BBM award cause you're a force on the trail. I love you, man. 


  
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Re: Why don't you volunteer?
Reply #41 - 03/30/16 at 1:38pm
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csquared wrote on 03/15/16 at 12:48pm:
I'm not sure why this gets no attention from the club nor advertisement... but there are other ways to donate as well.  I use amazon simply because of convenience and ability to source things that would be harder to get locally.  If you use amazon smile, you can donate a portion of your spending also to the club.  I've attached my supporting group and it show's as SORBA but when I highlight it it strictly shows it's for THTB.... It's small but I think any donations are/would be appreciated.... Just imagine if of the 4700+ registered users on this board spent $1000 a year at amazon.... 

Using a round figure, (4700*1000) that's $4.7 million dollars/yr.... .5% (.005) of that would be about $23,500 of donations that would be a way for folks who may never even consider trail work for whatever reasons they may have to help the club.  Now factor in other communities that can be reached via advertisement/word of mouth/signage/shop info (every day people/family members/trail runners/walkers/hikers) who just believe in the cause or may want to support a local group....  IMHO, it's free $$ that should get advertised more with so many people spending their time/$$ on Amazon.  The way I see it, I'm already spending time/$$ on Amazon... I might as well make sure that part of my spending goes to something I love... trails... and even better that it can go to the local club.

Obviously the example shown is just hypothetical.  But, even if you dropped the figure down to $100/person it would still equate to $2350 which is still a fair amount and would probably equate to what would be a the same as a significant growth in membership fees.

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Awesome!!! I currently donate my Amazon Smile to the Lupus Foundation of NC because my girl works there but she's got some competition now that I know SORBA and THTB are an option. 

We should advertise this to all our members. Maybe make a notification on the new Facebook page?
  
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Reply #42 - 03/31/16 at 11:28pm
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got to give my 2cents in here, I work a lot on the weekends and do not have a car so when my wife works on the Saturdays and I happen to have the day off or even on a work day I take advantage of getting out in the woods to do some TW ,trail work, . First I see , mainly at the BYT, what work was done during the weekend then I get a hold of Scott or Josh to see what I can do . I useally just cleanup the trail, even if it walking the whole trail and see if there are things that need love. I fully understand haveing kids and wanting time with your family on weekends . But this goes out to the new riders up an comeing riding the trails, the ones that have no tie downs , the ones who are young . We need to have a meeting with the new riders and let them know about the trail work . If they want to be a part of it or not. You'd be surprised at how many want to but they just want to ride, I get that...but to learn more about just riding they need to learn about how the trail was made and get a little history lesson about the trail. I know half the people we see out there when we say , we are doing trail work on this day they go , thanks keep up the good work. Now I say to them , come an reap the rewards of trail work. You will find and see things you never see while you are riding, a rock, and tree down or even TRASH left, which is a huge issue to me. Anyway that is just my 2 cents ..RAMFB Just Sayin'.
  
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Re: Why don't you volunteer?
Reply #43 - 04/01/16 at 12:43pm
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slayemf wrote on 03/31/16 at 11:28pm:
got to give my 2cents in here, I work a lot on the weekends and do not have a car so when my wife works on the Saturdays and I happen to have the day off or even on a work day I take advantage of getting out in the woods to do some TW ,trail work, . First I see , mainly at the BYT, what work was done during the weekend then I get a hold of Scott or Josh to see what I can do . I useally just cleanup the trail, even if it walking the whole trail and see if there are things that need love. I fully understand haveing kids and wanting time with your family on weekends . But this goes out to the new riders up an comeing riding the trails, the ones that have no tie downs , the ones who are young . We need to have a meeting with the new riders and let them know about the trail work . If they want to be a part of it or not. You'd be surprised at how many want to but they just want to ride, I get that...but to learn more about just riding they need to learn about how the trail was made and get a little history lesson about the trail. I know half the people we see out there when we say , we are doing trail work on this day they go , thanks keep up the good work. Now I say to them , come an reap the rewards of trail work. You will find and see things you never see while you are riding, a rock, and tree down or even TRASH left, which is a huge issue to me. Anyway that is just my 2 cents ..RAMFB Just Sayin'.



This!  ^^^^^   Smiley
  
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Re: Why don't you volunteer?
Reply #44 - 04/01/16 at 8:45pm
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I'm with Josh! Scott should be the one to receive the next BBM award!
  
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Reply #45 - 04/01/16 at 9:10pm
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BigBikeMike wrote on 04/01/16 at 8:45pm:
I'm with Josh! Scott should be the one to receive the next BBM award!

I'll +2 that!
  
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Reply #46 - 04/02/16 at 3:40am
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I didn't read the whole thread so apologies if a repeat. 
Assuming for a lot of us it's time. Work, family etc come first. Good news is, whether we like it or not, we have entered the generation of corporate work-life balance  and ideals. The city is pushing a bike friendly environment, and big corporate (Wells, BofA, Duke, lowes etc) are pushing both healthy/active  lifestyles and community service. Seems like their is an opportunity to tie it all together and do sponsored events to expand the trail network and promote the sport.
  
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Reply #47 - 04/02/16 at 11:50am
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ChrisJ82 wrote on 04/02/16 at 3:40am:
I didn't read the whole thread so apologies if a repeat. 
Assuming for a lot of us it's time. Work, family etc come first. Good news is, whether we like it or not, we have entered the generation of corporate work-life balance  and ideals. The city is pushing a bike friendly environment, and big corporate (Wells, BofA, Duke, lowes etc) are pushing both healthy/active  lifestyles and community service. Seems like their is an opportunity to tie it all together and do sponsored events to expand the trail network and promote the sport.

While I'll agree in theory I'm more pragmatic on the subject.  We as a club honestly don't have a problem with extending the trail network.  We've been successfully expanding it since 2004. We currently do sponsored work days with REI and those are great for big, one time events.   

The need is for more day to day, week to week help with trail maintenance and trail construction. The other matter is frequency and building proficiency.  A volunteer can do some work every once in awhile  but rarely becomes proficient at the regular maintenance or building techniques that the trails require. That only comes from practice. Smiley  I do understand that most volunteers will not aspire to invest that much time into the trail system but I can hope, can't I? Wink
  
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Reply #48 - 04/13/16 at 2:17pm
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csquared wrote on 03/15/16 at 12:48pm:
I'm not sure why this gets no attention from the club nor advertisement... but there are other ways to donate as well.  I use amazon simply because of convenience and ability to source things that would be harder to get locally.  If you use amazon smile, you can donate a portion of your spending also to the club.  I've attached my supporting group and it show's as SORBA but when I highlight it it strictly shows it's for THTB.... It's small but I think any donations are/would be appreciated.... Just imagine if of the 4700+ registered users on this board spent $1000 a year at amazon.... 

Using a round figure, (4700*1000) that's $4.7 million dollars/yr.... .5% (.005) of that would be about $23,500 of donations that would be a way for folks who may never even consider trail work for whatever reasons they may have to help the club.  Now factor in other communities that can be reached via advertisement/word of mouth/signage/shop info (every day people/family members/trail runners/walkers/hikers) who just believe in the cause or may want to support a local group....  IMHO, it's free $$ that should get advertised more with so many people spending their time/$$ on Amazon.  The way I see it, I'm already spending time/$$ on Amazon... I might as well make sure that part of my spending goes to something I love... trails... and even better that it can go to the local club.

Obviously the example shown is just hypothetical.  But, even if you dropped the figure down to $100/person it would still equate to $2350 which is still a fair amount and would probably equate to what would be a the same as a significant growth in membership fees.

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It took me a little while to get around to doing this, but I'm set up.  Every purchase I make through Amazon Smile will send a little money to the club.
  
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Reply #49 - 04/13/16 at 2:36pm
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Mark: Have we ever received any money from Amazon?
  
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Reply #50 - 04/13/16 at 2:42pm
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Tom F wrote on 04/13/16 at 2:36pm:
Mark: Have we ever received any money from Amazon?

Yes, we have!  And big thanks, Solar!!
  
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