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DG Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 438 Location: Matthews Joined: 03/01/16	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #20 - 07/21/16 at 2:08pm	Print Post
	Now we have to be careful of riders checking for Pokemon. I have heard that at the WWC it is hidden a super rare pokemon... Woods Rider wrote on 07/21/16 at 1:58pm: The real problem is that the brain of most people has been rewired. The oratory center of the brain have been changed, the Broca area of the frontal lobe is no longer connected to the vocal cords it now connected to the left and right thumb. So to communicate you must post you thoughts on face book. Is it legal to text and pedal at the WWC or do you have to use hands free ?

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IntheBush Big Ring Offline Posts: 2031 Location: South of the border Joined: 10/30/09	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #21 - 07/21/16 at 4:01pm	Print Post
	I have to admit, the number of smirks I get from people on the trail and at trail heads is incredible sometimes. Just drive around Charlotte regularly and it's on display everywhere already. Some seem downright hostile. I think it is has become the default attitude for some people outside of their own little worlds. Suspicion rules. It's sad but almost understandable considering the state of the nation. You might be the enemy or one of those BS political labels that are thrown about routinely on network TV. Or God forbid, you're a 29'r advocate. And anybody that doesn't share your view is an object of scorn. Heck, at least I know which restroom to use. Maybe that's the problem. That's ok. I've never had a problem with lonely in the midst of the constantly changing and fickle pop-culture storm. And I'm not looking for anybody else to blame.

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FredRubble Little Ring Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 509 Location: Mineral Springs Joined: 05/28/14	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #22 - 07/21/16 at 4:08pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 07/21/16 at 1:04am: you still in Mineral Springs? Good one Banjo....Nice to know you still have your sense of humor...
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Shredder Big Ring Offline Posts: 2077 Joined: 01/12/05	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #23 - 07/21/16 at 6:50pm	Print Post
	I came across 3 bucketheads running a high speed pace line on the Thread trail and if it wasn't for my superior bike handling skills (AKA running off the trail) it would've been a nasty head on. I asked them if it was that important to be going that fast on a green, bi-directional trail, and I got one scoff and 2 grunts. Assholes.

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ChosenOne Little Ring Offline Posts: 600 Joined: 11/02/08	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #24 - 07/21/16 at 7:42pm	Print Post
	Shredder wrote on 07/21/16 at 6:50pm: I came across 3 bucketheads running a high speed pace line on the Thread trail and if it wasn't for my superior bike handling skills (AKA running off the trail) it would've been a nasty head on. I asked them if it was that important to be going that fast on a green, bi-directional trail, and I got one scoff and 2 grunts. Assholes. The CTT is the only trail where I have a problem. It seems that folks (power rangers mostly) don't know how to yield the left hand side of the trail to on coming traffic. I ride that trail very fast and aggressively but I am never unsafe, I always call out opposite direction traffic and I always yield the left side. Perhaps a quick left hand to their handlebar and a lesson will be learned.

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sager Big Ring Offline Waiting for my next ride! Posts: 1343 Location: Charlotte Joined: 11/02/08	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #25 - 07/21/16 at 8:22pm	Print Post
	Thread trail is where I find the most problems also, but that's because it's two-way traffic and you run across people more frequently when you go in opposite directions. the issue exists at ASG also. I rarely run into it otherwise because people don't usually catch me when we are going the same direction. However, I agree, it's very annoying to be the only one yielding in these encounters.

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TooSlow Coaster Bike Offline I love YaBB 1 Gold! Posts: 242 Location: Huntersville, NC Joined: 06/01/04	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #26 - 07/22/16 at 6:19pm	Print Post
	Lack of common courtesy is a sign of the times. More and more, people are self-absorbed. Let's all do our part to friendliness and goodwill.

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KB Little Ring Offline listen to seger Posts: 830 Location: Plaza Midweed Joined: 09/18/09	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #27 - 07/23/16 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	TooSlow wrote on 07/22/16 at 6:19pm: Lack of common courtesy is a sign of the times. More and more, people are self-absorbed. Let's all do our part to friendliness and goodwill. Exactly! Like I said, My post was in no way directed at the guys and gals here, as I know that would be preaching to the choir. Hopefully we can all donate some stoke to encourage and foster more friendliness in this sport.

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Solar Little Ring Offline I can ride my bike with no handle bars Posts: 693 Location: Matthews Joined: 10/26/11	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #28 - 07/25/16 at 3:54pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 07/20/16 at 5:09pm: People are turning into assholes generally speaking. Not everyone is this way and I make it my personal goal to spread the joy whenever possible. If I say "hey hows it going" and you dont acknowledge my existence, I literally turn around an yell "HEY! How Are You!!?" Or better yet say "alright then, we'll talk about it later..." or "Good talk see ya out there.." It usually gets a smile and at least an "Im fine thanks" This! I'm going to start doing this, any time someone doesn't reply to a kind word.

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BudLeach Small Cog Offline Posts: 394 Location: Gastonia Joined: 09/09/14	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #29 - 07/25/16 at 5:12pm	Print Post
	sCvHeaVens wrote on 07/21/16 at 12:34pm: Fast forward to yesterday there was a guy riding backwards that we saw from a distance (end of figure 8 where you can see start of figure 8) and I almost ended up riding backwards too! I some how hopped trail in a section I've ridden a hundred times without realizing it. Weird. I somehow did the same thing a few weeks back, was finishing up figure 8 and suddenly everything looked very unfamiliar, turns out I was riding the very beginning of figure 8 again... backwards. I quickly turned around and got back on track. There is a section in there somewhere, where you're supposed to cut right, but if you just charge straight ahead you cut across the trail. Either that, or there's a tear in the fabric of space-time... or a wormhole. All perfectly reasonable explanations. On topic of trail etiquette / common courtesy... some people have it, some don't. I feel like the odds are actually much better on the trail than in everyday life.

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HarleyR62 Newbie Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 22 Location: Huntersville NC Joined: 10/30/14	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #30 - 07/26/16 at 2:31am	Print Post
	I've noticed this mainly at the WWC as well, I've came to the conclusion that it's like a public golf course...mainly enthusiasts but a lot of hacks.... Wrong way riders on rentals.. Spandex Strava Warriors trying to set a PR on thread before a riverjam (with water) so they can brag to their buddies over a Chickultra.... I usually go out of my way to acknowledge other hikers/bikers.... But I don't get but hurt when someone strolls past... All in all its a wonderful community of people and I'm happy to call many of them my friends.

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sCvHeaVens Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 447 Location: Charlotte, NC Joined: 02/12/15	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #31 - 07/26/16 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	BudLeach wrote on 07/25/16 at 5:12pm: Weird. I somehow did the same thing a few weeks back, was finishing up figure 8 and suddenly everything looked very unfamiliar, turns out I was riding the very beginning of figure 8 again... backwards. I quickly turned around and got back on track. There is a section in there somewhere, where you're supposed to cut right, but if you just charge straight ahead you cut across the trail. Either that, or there's a tear in the fabric of space-time... or a wormhole. All perfectly reasonable explanations. On topic of trail etiquette / common courtesy... some people have it, some don't. I feel like the odds are actually much better on the trail than in everyday life. I ended up riding there the next day and someone put a bunch of sticks blocking the wormhole so all should be good now!

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JokerSC Little Ring Offline Posts: 581 Location: Indian Land, SC Joined: 07/31/09	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #32 - 07/29/16 at 10:55am	Print Post
	I always say hello and smile at other riders on the trail. Most of the time I get some sort of s response. Now, when I don't, my inner asshat comes out and I am pretty verbal about it. I let them know they should reply to me because I was so gracious! : )

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alan t Newbie Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 48 Location: concord nc Joined: 10/11/14	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #33 - 07/30/16 at 12:48am	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 07/20/16 at 5:09pm: Culture man... Its not just bikes its everywhere and everyone. I was at the grocery store and I was walking down the aisle and there was one other person walking toward me. I said "hey hows it going" and they just stared at me like I had a horn coming out of my head. No "hello" no " I'm well, how are you?" nothing... just walked on by. People are turning into assholes generally speaking. Not everyone is this way and I make it my personal goal to spread the joy whenever possible. If I say "hey hows it going" and you dont acknowledge my existence, I literally turn around an yell "HEY! How Are You!!?" Or better yet say "alright then, we'll talk about it later..." or "Good talk see ya out there.." It usually gets a smile and at least an "Im fine thanks" We gotta be the change we want to see in folks. I usually talk to anyone on the trail. Unless your riding a Specialized. F*** those guys. haha I try to to do the same thing you do . Almost seems if you make people talk to you they will . This is not how it used to be. Hell some people won't even hold a door open for you nowadays .!!!

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BigBikeMike Project Board Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 1593 Joined: 06/14/09	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #34 - 07/30/16 at 1:54am	Print Post
	I always try to be nice to riders. People these days are so impatient and rude! I was visiting a few weeks back and my grand daughter and I drove over to Ming Garden in Cornelius. After picking our order, we got in the turning lane going into West Catawba Ave. from Sam Furr Road. The light was red long enough for the cars to be coming out of the road between the CVS-Cashions. This Direct TV van 2 cars back decided he wasn't going to wait. He pulled out, passed us on the right and made a left hand turn and the cars had to stop to keep from hitting this jerk. What are people thinking these days?

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runningon Newbie Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 6 Location: Marshville Joined: 01/02/15	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #35 - 08/22/16 at 9:14pm	Print Post
	DK wrote on 07/21/16 at 1:01pm: For some reason Beatty is where I've seen this most often. I can remember one day encountering a family on bikes going the wrong way. I politely informed them that they were headed in the wrong direction and may want to turn around. The man said thanks and I was on my way. Twenty minutes later I came upon them still going the wrong way. You can't fix stupid. And the number of runners going the wrong direction is uncountable. Which way do bikers prefer runners travel? I go both ways, at least at Sherman where I frequent most, because it changes the workout a bit. I prefer to face traffic because I'm much quicker to get off the track since I can see you coming much further ahead. When I'm running with traffic I'm super paranoid and always looking back over my shoulder afraid I'll miss someone coming and not get out of the way quickly enough. My encounters with bikers are always so friendly. Not sure if it's because I move completely off the trail and out of the way or if everyone is just that nice all the time. It's always a pleasure though.

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Advocat In The Loop Project Board Offline Posts: 3845 Joined: 08/11/04	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #36 - 08/23/16 at 2:53pm	Print Post
	runningon wrote on 08/22/16 at 9:14pm: Which way do bikers prefer runners travel? I go both ways, at least at Sherman where I frequent most, because it changes the workout a bit. I prefer to face traffic because I'm much quicker to get off the track since I can see you coming much further ahead. When I'm running with traffic I'm super paranoid and always looking back over my shoulder afraid I'll miss someone coming and not get out of the way quickly enough. My encounters with bikers are always so friendly. Not sure if it's because I move completely off the trail and out of the way or if everyone is just that nice all the time. It's always a pleasure though. Glad you've had good experiences as a runner on the trails. Besides good manners, the bikers should always be gracious when walkers and runners yield the right of way. In all of the Mecklenberg County parks pedestrians have the right of way on the trails, so a "thank you" is always in order when they yield to us bikers (which they graciously do almost 100% of the time). (Plus, selfishly, its a great conditioning mechanism for the pedestrians if they hear that "thank you"!) Sometimes its hard, but we bikers always need to be ready to yield to other users, even when we might have the right of way (Lake Norman State Park). Nobody (especially kids and horses) deserves to get scared by a biker on a multi-use trail - even if they're clueless. I believe almost all bikers prefer the runners to go in the opposite direction for the reasons you state. I have seen a few rare exceptions for runners that are particularly fast.
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jaybase09 Coaster Bike Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 170 Location: Charlotte NC Joined: 07/11/13	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #37 - 08/23/16 at 5:40pm	Print Post
	I never understood the right of way rule. A runner has an incredibly easier time stopping and hopping off the trail or rerouting there run in relation to a bike rider. For a bike rider to get off a trail or stop could require more danger than a runner. Plus a runner has a better site line as a mountain biker generally is looking down at at angle and not at the horizon. Not to mention a bike is louder so a runner (that isnt blaring his music) can here one coming quicker than seeing a biker coming up. Not looking to start any type of argument but just makes more sense to me.

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DK Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 348 Joined: 11/21/14	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #38 - 08/23/16 at 6:01pm	Print Post
	runningon wrote on 08/22/16 at 9:14pm: Which way do bikers prefer runners travel? I go both ways, at least at Sherman where I frequent most, because it changes the workout a bit. I prefer to face traffic because I'm much quicker to get off the track since I can see you coming much further ahead. When I'm running with traffic I'm super paranoid and always looking back over my shoulder afraid I'll miss someone coming and not get out of the way quickly enough. My encounters with bikers are always so friendly. Not sure if it's because I move completely off the trail and out of the way or if everyone is just that nice all the time. It's always a pleasure though. At Beatty the bikes run CCW and the pedestrian traffic CW. I always thought the little signs were self explanatory but they must be unclear to some. Sherman runs CW for bikes so foot traffic should be going CCW.

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sager Big Ring Offline Waiting for my next ride! Posts: 1343 Location: Charlotte Joined: 11/02/08	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #39 - 08/23/16 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	jaybase09 wrote on 08/23/16 at 5:40pm: I never understood the right of way rule. A runner has an incredibly easier time stopping and hopping off the trail or rerouting there run in relation to a bike rider. For a bike rider to get off a trail or stop could require more danger than a runner. Plus a runner has a better site line as a mountain biker generally is looking down at at angle and not at the horizon. Not to mention a bike is louder so a runner (that isnt blaring his music) can here one coming quicker than seeing a biker coming up. Not looking to start any type of argument but just makes more sense to me. It's more about accountability than practicality. Basically everyone agrees with you, but if you hit a runner with your bike it's still your fault because bigger/faster things yield to slower things. So, if you see a runner and have good eye contact and they clearly get out of the way for you, good for you, they did the right thing. If they dont, your job is to not run them over.

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