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Re: Trail Etiquette
Reply #40 - 08/23/16 at 7:18pm
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sager wrote on 08/23/16 at 6:43pm:


It's more about accountability than practicality.  Basically everyone agrees with you, but if you hit a runner with your bike it's still your fault because bigger/faster things yield to slower things.  So, if you see a runner and have good eye contact and they clearly get out of the way for you, good for you, they did the right thing.  If they dont, your job is to not run them over.


That makes sense.
  
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Re: Trail Etiquette
Reply #41 - 08/23/16 at 8:39pm
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Advocat wrote on 08/23/16 at 2:53pm:


Besides good manners, the bikers should always be gracious when walkers and runners yield the right of way. In all of the Mecklenberg County parks pedestrians have the right of way on the trails, so a "thank you" is always in order when they yield to us bikers (which they graciously do almost 100% of the time). (Plus, selfishly, its a great conditioning mechanism for the pedestrians if they hear that "thank you"!) Sometimes its hard, but we bikers always need to be ready to yield to other users, even when we might have the right of way (Lake Norman State Park). Nobody (especially kids and horses) deserves to get scared by a biker on a multi-use trail - even if they're clueless.


I try to follow this rule with one exception--people with unleashed dogs.  Even though the dog may be under there control, I've had to many run ins with dogs that want to get in front of my bike.  I'm not as concerned about the dog attacking me as I am with running over the dog.  Since this happens in my neighborhood trails a lot, I tend to just give a look and ride on.  There's no point to tell them they are doing something illegal--they know.


  
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Re: Trail Etiquette
Reply #42 - 08/23/16 at 11:08pm
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runningon wrote on 08/22/16 at 9:14pm:


Which way do bikers prefer runners travel? I go both ways, at least at Sherman where I frequent most, because it changes the workout a bit. I prefer to face traffic because I'm much quicker to get off the track since I can see you coming much further ahead. When I'm running with traffic I'm super paranoid and always looking back over my shoulder afraid I'll miss someone coming and not get out of the way quickly enough. 



I'm glad that you exercise responsibility when it comes to avoiding other trail users.

The problem with opposing traffic on single track trails is two fold.

Closing speed and limited visibility.

Closing speed = Your speed + the speed of the opposing traffic

It's easier for me to avoid you traveling in the same direction, than it is to hope you avoid me traveling in the opposite direction. After all, you have the right of way and it is my responsibility to avoid you. It is more difficult to do when our speeds are added together, I have no control over where I pass you (surprise, surprise), and collisions are likely to be more serious.
  
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Re: Trail Etiquette
Reply #43 - 08/23/16 at 11:10pm
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Most all the trails around here are plenty wide enough for a runner and a biker to pass while going in opposite directions. If not, somebody is out of control or not looking ahead at all.
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Re: Trail Etiquette
Reply #44 - 08/23/16 at 11:21pm
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Carolina thread trail has a number of places where there is not enough room for two to pass. Without someone riding, stepping or falling off the trail down into the creek. Like Springs, there are also a number of blind curves.

Of course most trail users are conscientious. But others don't understand to keep right. Some even have earbuds in both ears and seem oblivious to any hazards.

I've had a number of close calls. And I ride carefully to the extent possible.
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