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KB Little Ring Offline listen to seger Posts: 830 Location: Plaza Midweed Joined: 09/18/09	Trail Etiquette 07/20/16 at 3:30pm	Print Post
	I know none of the friendly brethren and ladies here on the boards/club are guilty but... I cant help but want to vent after the past few months of riding local trails and noticing the lack of courtesy and friendliness out and about. Maybe yall can advise.. The past few times ive ridden the WWC I have hit the Thread Trail just for some extra miles. Every time- I have encountered numerous riders not only unwilling to return or acknowledge a friendly "hello" but also to YIELD MUTUALLY. In one particular instance I had slowed and moved to accommodate a friendly passing and the opposing rider sped up and took the center of the trail causing us to pass on literally the most narrow part of the trail. I am not one to cry "danger" as I really don't consider my riding style conducive to my own safety.. but ill be damned if I let someone else make that decision for me. Has anyone else noticed an alarming population of riders that seem to have forgotten that cycling is a fun and friendly sport? Can someone help me understand the process for passing on Thread.. it seems like I am missing something. Is saying "hey" to people on the trail not cool?

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Robert C. Big Ring Offline Leaves are the ultimate trail maintenance tool Posts: 1806 Location: Available upon request Joined: 11/22/04	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #1 - 07/20/16 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	Blame Pokemon Go

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SCOTT_T Big Ring Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 2092 Joined: 02/16/05	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #2 - 07/20/16 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	I blame Robert C

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Banjopickin Big Ring Offline Spinnin' knees & Hittin' trees since '85 Posts: 1805 Location: Pisgah National Forest, USA Joined: 08/01/11	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #3 - 07/20/16 at 5:09pm	Print Post
	Culture man... Its not just bikes its everywhere and everyone. I was at the grocery store and I was walking down the aisle and there was one other person walking toward me. I said "hey hows it going" and they just stared at me like I had a horn coming out of my head. No "hello" no " I'm well, how are you?" nothing... just walked on by. People are turning into assholes generally speaking. Not everyone is this way and I make it my personal goal to spread the joy whenever possible. If I say "hey hows it going" and you dont acknowledge my existence, I literally turn around an yell "HEY! How Are You!!?" Or better yet say "alright then, we'll talk about it later..." or "Good talk see ya out there.." It usually gets a smile and at least an "Im fine thanks" We gotta be the change we want to see in folks. I usually talk to anyone on the trail. Unless your riding a Specialized. F*** those guys. haha
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KB Little Ring Offline listen to seger Posts: 830 Location: Plaza Midweed Joined: 09/18/09	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #4 - 07/20/16 at 5:34pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 07/20/16 at 5:09pm: Culture man... Its not just bikes its everywhere and everyone. I was at the grocery store and I was walking down the aisle and there was one other person walking toward me. I said "hey hows it going" and they just stared at me like I had a horn coming out of my head. No "hello" no " I'm well, how are you?" nothing... just walked on by. People are turning into assholes generally speaking. Not everyone is this way and I make it my personal goal to spread the joy whenever possible. If I say "hey hows it going" and you dont acknowledge my existence, I literally turn around an yell "HEY! How Are You!!?" Or better yet say "alright then, we'll talk about it later..." or "Good talk see ya out there.." It usually gets a smile and at least an "Im fine thanks" We gotta be the change we want to see in folks. I usually talk to anyone on the trail. Unless your riding a Specialized. F*** those guys. haha Haha! Im glad I am not the only one. I cant help but get pissed off when I know they heard me and just choose to say nothing. ESPECIALLY when we are out riding bikes. I usually just get sneered at. Funny enough EVERY offender yesterday happened to be riding the same brand of bike which will remain nameless..

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TrillWill IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline THTB Board member 16'-23' LKN TC Posts: 1027 Location: Cornelius Joined: 06/14/11	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #5 - 07/20/16 at 5:43pm	Print Post
	I hear ya KB! It goes beyond just rudeness on the trail, which luckily I don't seem to encounter very much. Folks have literally created "cheater lines" (also known as strava lines) on literally every turn of consequence at North Meck park. I don't understand why someone would want to continue to go straight when you could rip through a nice turn. I think those are the same people who won't give a friendly yield when trying to pass on a trail. But again I generally see really nice people on the trail, I'm glad the stuck up folks seem to be pretty few and far between in my experience.

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Specialist Little Ring Offline The rider formerly known as "Trekker1" Posts: 694 Location: Charlotte Joined: 05/11/12	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #6 - 07/20/16 at 7:56pm	Print Post
	I always say "Hey how's it goin'?" Or "y'all right?" When I come across another trail user. And I say "thanks" when someone pulls aside to let me pass. And I ride a Specialized... My most negative trail encounters, every last one of them actually, have all been at the WWC.

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KB Little Ring Offline listen to seger Posts: 830 Location: Plaza Midweed Joined: 09/18/09	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #7 - 07/20/16 at 8:19pm	Print Post
	Specialist wrote on 07/20/16 at 7:56pm: I always say "Hey how's it goin'?" Or "y'all right?" When I come across another trail user. And I say "thanks" when someone pulls aside to let me pass. And I ride a Specialized... My most negative trail encounters, every last one of them actually, have all been at the WWC. I rode a Spesh for a lonnngg time. Nothing wrong with em'. Not to mention the offenders from yesterday were ALL on bikes that started with a T! I think the common denominator here though is the trail system..

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The Cycle Path IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline Treasurer '11 to '18. Trail Chair '12-'18, '20-'21 Posts: 11858 Location: Lake Norman Joined: 08/04/03	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #8 - 07/20/16 at 8:55pm	Print Post
	That's sad. I always say high to other riders on the trail. Some reciprocate, some do not. Most do, though. Trill Will, I've got some rusty barb wire at Fisher you can use to block those short cuts if you want it. Sure hope they're current on their tetanus booster...

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KB Little Ring Offline listen to seger Posts: 830 Location: Plaza Midweed Joined: 09/18/09	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #9 - 07/20/16 at 9:10pm	Print Post
	Yeah... I mean these open ended rants are hella lame, I know. But I try and escape the assholes of the real world by being in the woods. It really just bums me out when people are seemingly bummed to be out there having a good time.

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FredRubble Little Ring Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 509 Location: Mineral Springs Joined: 05/28/14	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #10 - 07/20/16 at 9:41pm	Print Post
	Lots of people in Charlotte=Lots of assholes...Its a numbers game..... Even the most rural of areas always have one Bunghole....Plus the competitive nature of corporate jobs fuels the ego which unfortunately carries over to the day to day... Just my opinion.... If you don't like it....STRAVA!!!!!!

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KB Little Ring Offline listen to seger Posts: 830 Location: Plaza Midweed Joined: 09/18/09	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #11 - 07/20/16 at 9:51pm	Print Post
	FredRubble wrote on 07/20/16 at 9:41pm: Lots of people in Charlotte=Lots of assholes...Its a numbers game..... Even the most rural of areas always have one Bunghole....Plus the competitive nature of corporate jobs fuels the ego which unfortunately carries over to the day to day... Just my opinion.... If you don't like it....STRAVA!!!!!! I like this!

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IntheBush Big Ring Offline Posts: 2031 Location: South of the border Joined: 10/30/09	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #12 - 07/20/16 at 10:23pm	Print Post
	Yep. Another sign of the times. You watch Waters World? He holds up a dollar bill in midtown Manhattan and asks people whose picture is on it. Nobody knows...
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Doc00t IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline When in DOUBT, PEDAL it OUT Posts: 1785 Location: University Joined: 05/09/12	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #13 - 07/20/16 at 11:18pm	Print Post
	Never talk to people on the trail. If your talking then your not pedaling hard enough. Every word uttered is 0.1 seconds off the strava time and every root can be blamed on lazy trail workers. What am I paying for if I have to roll over another root every 5 seconds when on the trails. This sport is getting weak. That's it, I'm selling my electric powered, S-Works/ fat tired, plus sized, dual suspension, tubeless ready, cross-enduro, all purpose race machine and getting a road bike... with an assist motor hidden in the seat tube, and a bike rack for my self driving Tesla Sorry Carry on

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Banjopickin Big Ring Offline Spinnin' knees & Hittin' trees since '85 Posts: 1805 Location: Pisgah National Forest, USA Joined: 08/01/11	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #14 - 07/21/16 at 1:04am	Print Post
	FredRubble wrote on 07/20/16 at 9:41pm: Even the most rural of areas always have one Bunghole.... you still in Mineral Springs?

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DG Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 438 Location: Matthews Joined: 03/01/16	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #15 - 07/21/16 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	The problem is the lack of oxygen to the brain. This results in the incapacitated cyclist syndrome, aka non being able to think and talk...and be polite.

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sCvHeaVens Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 447 Location: Charlotte, NC Joined: 02/12/15	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #16 - 07/21/16 at 12:34pm	Print Post
	Speaking of etiquette.... What's the deal with people riding trail backwards / wrong way; do yall typically say something to them or let them go? I encountered a guy at Sherman a few months ago going backwards (was coming from lake loop to shortcut I guess) and when I told him; hey man you're going the wrong way he was very rude and was like "I KNOW". Needless to say that led to me voicing my opinion. So since then; to avoid conflict I typically just let them go and figure if they hit someone b/c their bad decision they will have to deal with the recourse. Fast forward to yesterday there was a guy riding backwards that we saw from a distance (end of figure 8 where you can see start of figure 8) and I almost ended up riding backwards too! I some how hopped trail in a section I've ridden a hundred times without realizing it. Knowing the trail it was evident to me right away, but I can now see how easy it is to get turned around and I wonder if the guy yesterday had just been riding in circles for hours . KB - This could have been all avoided if I seen this post yesterday; I would have cut in behind you and yelled STRAVA!!! LEADER ON YOUR LEFT!!!

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DK Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 348 Joined: 11/21/14	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #17 - 07/21/16 at 1:01pm	Print Post
	sCvHeaVens wrote on 07/21/16 at 12:34pm: Speaking of etiquette.... What's the deal with people riding trail backwards / wrong way; do yall typically say something to them or let them go? I encountered a guy at Sherman a few months ago going backwards (was coming from lake loop to shortcut I guess) and when I told him; hey man you're going the wrong way he was very rude and was like "I KNOW". Needless to say that led to me voicing my opinion. So since then; to avoid conflict I typically just let them go and figure if they hit someone b/c their bad decision they will have to deal with the recourse. Fast forward to yesterday there was a guy riding backwards that we saw from a distance (end of figure 8 where you can see start of figure 8) and I almost ended up riding backwards too! I some how hopped trail in a section I've ridden a hundred times without realizing it. Knowing the trail it was evident to me right away, but I can now see how easy it is to get turned around and I wonder if the guy yesterday had just been riding in circles for hours . KB - This could have been all avoided if I seen this post yesterday; I would have cut in behind you and yelled STRAVA!!! LEADER ON YOUR LEFT!!! For some reason Beatty is where I've seen this most often. I can remember one day encountering a family on bikes going the wrong way. I politely informed them that they were headed in the wrong direction and may want to turn around. The man said thanks and I was on my way. Twenty minutes later I came upon them still going the wrong way. You can't fix stupid. And the number of runners going the wrong direction is uncountable.

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DG Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 438 Location: Matthews Joined: 03/01/16	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #18 - 07/21/16 at 1:10pm	Print Post
	I have to admit I went twice on the wrong way on Beatty, but once i was told I thanked and turned around. I think that some "entrances" to the path may be misleading especially for newbies like me. But when that happens and if you are told, you do what you are told with a big sorry smile!! DK wrote on 07/21/16 at 1:01pm: For some reason Beatty is where I've seen this most often. I can remember one day encountering a family on bikes going the wrong way. I politely informed them that they were headed in the wrong direction and may want to turn around. The man said thanks and I was on my way. Twenty minutes later I came upon them still going the wrong way. You can't fix stupid. And the number of runners going the wrong direction is uncountable.

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Woods Rider Small Cog Offline I wanna ride Posts: 390 Joined: 02/26/08	Re: Trail Etiquette Reply #19 - 07/21/16 at 1:58pm	Print Post
	DG wrote on 07/21/16 at 12:20pm: The problem is the lack of oxygen to the brain. This results in the incapacitated cyclist syndrome, aka non being able to think and talk...and be polite. The real problem is that the brain of most people has been rewired. The oratory center of the brain have been changed, the Broca area of the frontal lobe is no longer connected to the vocal cords it now connected to the left and right thumb. So to communicate you must post you thoughts on face book. Is it legal to text and pedal at the WWC or do you have to use hands free ?

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