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Advice for new brake system/install
10/18/16 at 7:16pm
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I have a 2012 Trek Cobia and the brakes barely work anymore. I have been told by a local shop that they could bleed them but it might not resolve the issue and should consider new brakes. they are Hayes Dyno Comp hydraulic disc brakes. I am trying to decide between fixing or getting a new bike. Any advice out there or recommendations for local guys that would want to take a look and work on it for a fee??? thanks!
  
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Re: Advice for new brake system/install
Reply #1 - 10/19/16 at 12:33am
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You can get new brakes a whole lot cheaper than a new bike, and depending on your shop's labor rates it probably wouldn't be too much cheaper than what a brake bleed would cost.

What specifically is wrong with your brakes that they "barely work anymore?"  Do they squeal, not grab, not do anything?
  
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Re: Advice for new brake system/install
Reply #2 - 10/19/16 at 12:47am
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I recently replaced my Shimano XT brakes  with some LX models. They work just as good and were a fraction of the cost. YouTube has some great videos and did the install myself.  I did have my LBS cut the cables for me since I didn't have that tool. Bleeding them was easy.
  
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Reply #3 - 10/19/16 at 12:51pm
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100% Shimano SLX or XT
  
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Re: Advice for new brake system/install
Reply #4 - 10/19/16 at 12:55pm
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Assuming you have a "soft" lever, bleeding should bring it back "solid".  Also assuming the brakes use to work fine, the pads could be worn out but you should have noticed some additional noise when braking and visual indications on the rotors that something is wrong.  In any case, you shouldn't need new brakes or a new bike.  Pads are cheap, bleed kits can be had for 5 to 40 bucks, new rotors for 15 if you want to do yourself.
  
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Re: Advice for new brake system/install
Reply #5 - 10/19/16 at 12:56pm
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I'm sure your current brakes could be made to work again, but the amount of time it would take vs. the cost to just buy some new basic brakes makes it a wash in the end. Depends on how you value your time I guess. I generally prefer to rebuild, as I enjoy taking stuff apart, but there are cases where a replacement/upgrade is called for. 

Look into some basic Shimano hydraulics (M396, M445, M447, M506, Deore, SLX, XT...all comes down to your budget) Anything Deore and below will function almost exactly the same, and you would be hard pressed to tell any difference in a blind test. Once you reach SLX level you get the servowave linkage in the lever which makes the lever feel snappy, which is nice. At that point, they are worth rebuilding and keeping in service IMO. 

I recently bought some used SLXs on here and did a full strip down and rebuild of master cylinders, lever linkages, and calipers. They work like new now. FWIW, I have ridden bikes with M396, M506, Deore, SLX and XT... I have also ridden Avid Elixir3s-crap, and currently ride w/ Sram Guide R-great. Shimanos are solid, and you can get some great deals right now on previous year models. 

Mineral oil brakes have an easier bleed process, and it is not corossive like DOT fluid, so just simpler to work with overall.  You will likely need to trim the lines for a clean install, but they usually ship with an extra olive to account for this. All you would need is some mineral oil and a basic Shimano bleed kit, or a friend/shop who will do install for you. 

Depending on the condition of your current rotors, you could either clean then up with some fine emery cloth and/or medium scotch brite to ensure the pads bed in properly, or if they are past their minimum thickness, just replace outright.
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Re: Advice for new brake system/install
Reply #6 - 10/19/16 at 1:57pm
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I think you should get a new bike and give me the old one
  
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Reply #7 - 10/19/16 at 2:44pm
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I recently got a new set of brakes cheaper than it was gonna cost me for bleeding and new pads.........just say'n.
  
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Re: Advice for new brake system/install
Reply #8 - 10/20/16 at 12:27pm
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Just a side note, when you buy new brakes you will most likely have to purchase the tools necessary to bleed also.  It is highly unlikely that the new brakes will have the hoses at the correct length to fit your bike (they are made long to ensure they are not too short for any bike).  So your full cost comparison is, cost of bleed vs new brakes + cost of bleed kit.  Either way you will need to do a bleed most likely. Shimano brakes are very easy to bleed and there are tons of videos online to show you how to do it. Cool
  
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Reply #9 - 10/20/16 at 11:11pm
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front foot stops the front,,,Endo,,,back foot gives ya gluide.....just butta it...Just Sayin'
  
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Reply #10 - 10/23/16 at 8:41pm
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Get some mechanical, then you don't have to worry about bleeding. Unless you stretch the cable too much. Then it depends how hard you hit the tree. Heck, you may not even bleed Sad
  
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Re: Advice for new brake system/install
Reply #11 - 10/23/16 at 11:02pm
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slayemf wrote on 10/20/16 at 11:11pm:
front foot stops the front,,,Endo,,,back foot gives ya gluide.....just butta it...Just Sayin'

  
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Re: Advice for new brake system/install
Reply #12 - 10/24/16 at 12:11am
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49erRider wrote on 10/19/16 at 12:51pm:
100% Shimano SLX or XT




+100!!! Loving my XTs!
  
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Re: Advice for new brake system/install
Reply #13 - 10/24/16 at 12:17am
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Impaler 58 wrote on 10/23/16 at 8:41pm:
Get some mechanical, then you don't have to worry about bleeding. Unless you stretch the cable too much. Then it depends how hard you hit the tree. Heck, you may not even bleed Sad


That is very funny. +1 on BB7s
  
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