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btalley Big Ring Offline aka "Lil Bill" or "Squatch" Posts: 1483 Location: Mooresville, NC Joined: 08/03/10	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #40 - 04/19/17 at 2:45am	Print Post
	This is the same damn argument from when 29ers first came out...e-bikes are simply the new 29ers! A bunch of people flocked to 29ers, some for the speed, some for the geo/fit, some for the ease of overcoming obstacles... E-bikes along with 29ers makes getting up and over what was once was semi difficult for most on existing equipment easier. They both help the rider ride faster with out having to put in as much effort or training. The industry will continue to offer more advanced equipment that expands the market. Brings more people into mountain biking by building the equipment that will help them enjoy what we all enjoy about the sport but won't have to put in the work to achieve it. We all enjoy mountain biking for many different reasons, ride what you like. I like slack long travel bikes which makes the ride more enjoyable for me, easier on some trails and obstacles and too much for most. For me it's all about the challenge and the fun. Go ride your damn bike (or e-bike)...

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sCvHeaVens Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 447 Location: Charlotte, NC Joined: 02/12/15	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #41 - 04/19/17 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	btalley wrote on 04/19/17 at 2:45am: This is the same damn argument from when 29ers first came out...e-bikes are simply the new 29ers! A bunch of people flocked to 29ers, some for the speed, some for the geo/fit, some for the ease of overcoming obstacles... E-bikes along with 29ers makes getting up and over what was once was semi difficult for most on existing equipment easier. They both help the rider ride faster with out having to put in as much effort or training. The industry will continue to offer more advanced equipment that expands the market. Brings more people into mountain biking by building the equipment that will help them enjoy what we all enjoy about the sport but won't have to put in the work to achieve it. We all enjoy mountain biking for many different reasons, ride what you like. I like slack long travel bikes which makes the ride more enjoyable for me, easier on some trails and obstacles and too much for most. For me it's all about the challenge and the fun. Go ride your damn bike (or e-bike)... Now you're trying to justify your hate for 29ers

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Sierra_bravo Coaster Bike Offline Way to many post Posts: 116 Location: East Charlotte Joined: 02/28/17	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #42 - 04/20/17 at 12:18am	Print Post
	Got to try a 29er the other day for the first time. Yea it gets over stuff smoother than 27.5 or 26 but it doesn't feel as fun. I mean sure, you don't have to bunny hop most roots. But on tight trails, it kinda feels like you're driving a ford e350 driving through DC roads, specifically Dupoint Circle.

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FMWilly Coaster Bike Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 64 Location: Fort Mill, SC Joined: 11/28/16	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #43 - 04/20/17 at 12:44am	Print Post
	I ride an ebike sometimes. I have a Specialized Levo. I also have a Specialized Camber 29. Both are great bikes. I like my Levo because I can go fast uphill and can ride longer (more miles) than my Camber. The 650 tires also give me better traction or grip on the trails. But I do get a much better workout on my Camber. The bottom line is to go outside and have fun instead of sitting on your bum watching TV.

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The Cycle Path IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline Treasurer '11 to '18. Trail Chair '12-'18, '20-'21 Posts: 11858 Location: Lake Norman Joined: 08/04/03	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #44 - 04/20/17 at 4:36pm	Print Post
	Sierra_bravo wrote on 04/20/17 at 12:18am: Got to try a 29er the other day for the first time. Yea it gets over stuff smoother than 27.5 or 26 but it doesn't feel as fun. I mean sure, you don't have to bunny hop most roots. But on tight trails, it kinda feels like you're driving a ford e350 driving through DC roads, specifically Dupoint Circle. 29'ers are just fast through tight trails as 26 and 650b, BUT...you have to ride them differently. I noticed that when I went from a 26 to a 29. Took me about 6 rides to get the hang of it but now it's as fast or faster than a 650b26.

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Banjopickin Big Ring Offline Spinnin' knees & Hittin' trees since '85 Posts: 1805 Location: Pisgah National Forest, USA Joined: 08/01/11	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #45 - 04/20/17 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	FMWilly wrote on 04/20/17 at 12:44am: I ride an ebike sometimes. I have a Specialized Levo. I also have a Specialized Camber 29. Both are great bikes. I like my Levo because I can go fast uphill and can ride longer (more miles) than my Camber. The 650 tires also give me better traction or grip on the trails. But I do get a much better workout on my Camber. The bottom line is to go outside and have fun instead of sitting on your bum watching TV. Where have you been able to ride your Levo? Seems like options are really limited in the CLT area...

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sCvHeaVens Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 447 Location: Charlotte, NC Joined: 02/12/15	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #46 - 04/20/17 at 5:32pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 04/20/17 at 5:04pm: Where have you been able to ride your Levo? Seems like options are really limited in the CLT area... I really don't mean this as a stab or to jump to conclusions but my guess is all the same trails he/she is riding the camber on....
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The Cycle Path IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline Treasurer '11 to '18. Trail Chair '12-'18, '20-'21 Posts: 11858 Location: Lake Norman Joined: 08/04/03	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #47 - 04/20/17 at 9:25pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 04/20/17 at 5:04pm: Where have you been able to ride your Levo? Seems like options are really limited in the CLT area... Fisher, Allison, LNSP. Any of them. I can't ride it any faster than the fastest Strava times with it and it's pedal assist. I honestly prefer to ride my Camber over it but it's a fun novelty for me.

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sCvHeaVens Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 447 Location: Charlotte, NC Joined: 02/12/15	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #48 - 04/21/17 at 12:08pm	Print Post
	The Cycle Path wrote on 04/20/17 at 9:25pm: Fisher, Allison, LNSP. Any of them. I can't ride it any faster than the fastest Strava times with it and it's pedal assist. I honestly prefer to ride my Camber over it but it's a fun novelty for me. Obviously you would have to check with trail coordinator with Fisher and Allison , but are e-bikes allowed in LNSP?

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Banjopickin Big Ring Offline Spinnin' knees & Hittin' trees since '85 Posts: 1805 Location: Pisgah National Forest, USA Joined: 08/01/11	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #49 - 04/21/17 at 12:31pm	Print Post
	The Cycle Path wrote on 04/20/17 at 9:25pm: Fisher, Allison, LNSP. Any of them. I can't ride it any faster than the fastest Strava times with it and it's pedal assist. I honestly prefer to ride my Camber over it but it's a fun novelty for me. So NC State Parks and Trailblazer maintained trails allow eBikes to use the trails? Or is there a specific eBike exception for certain trails or certain types of eBikes? If I were a Levo owner I would be pissed to get a ticket for riding my eBike on trail if there are not clear rules defining what bikes can/cannot use the trails... It might be wise for land managers/trail coordinators to have clear rules on eBike usage. Based on what is going down at Sea Otter, Taipei Bike show, etc the industry is throwing a ton of muscle behind eBikes and they will be on your trails soon... for better or worse.
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TrillWill IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline THTB Board member 16'-23' LKN TC Posts: 1027 Location: Cornelius Joined: 06/14/11	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #50 - 04/21/17 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 04/21/17 at 12:31pm: It might be wise for land managers/trail coordinators to have clear rules on eBike usage. Based on what is going down at Sea Otter, Taipei Bike show, etc the industry is throwing a ton of muscle behind eBikes and they will be on your trails soon... for better or worse. Just for clarification, trial coordinators have no say over eBike usage on trails, it is 100% up to land managers on trails that are on public lands (which is all of the trails we build/maintain).

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Banjopickin Big Ring Offline Spinnin' knees & Hittin' trees since '85 Posts: 1805 Location: Pisgah National Forest, USA Joined: 08/01/11	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #51 - 04/21/17 at 2:30pm	Print Post
	TrillWill wrote on 04/21/17 at 1:46pm: Just for clarification, trial coordinators have no say over eBike usage on trails, it is 100% up to land managers on trails that are on public lands (which is all of the trails we build/maintain). I figured as much... When I was temporary TC at Beatty I worked with Dorothy (?) in P&Rs to get some rules changed so we could night ride. When I mentioned TCs I meant it as they could have some influence on P&R rules for trails on park lands like we did at Beatty. Not sure how the relationship between THTBs and Char-Meck P&R is sitting at the moment... What about RRT? or WWC? those are private and could set their own rules right? Not that Im going to buy an eBike but Im sure we'll start seeing more and more and it would be nice to have clarity on the rules.
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Doc00t IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline When in DOUBT, PEDAL it OUT Posts: 1785 Location: University Joined: 05/09/12	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #52 - 04/21/17 at 4:28pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 04/21/17 at 2:30pm: What about RRT? or WWC? those are private and could set their own rules right? Sure but WWC is a business. If I was in it for the money I would have a fleet of them for rent to general public and make a killing, just make sure they sign the liability waiver.

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sCvHeaVens Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 447 Location: Charlotte, NC Joined: 02/12/15	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #53 - 04/21/17 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 04/21/17 at 2:30pm: I figured as much... When I was temporary TC at Beatty I worked with Dorothy (?) in P&Rs to get some rules changed so we could night ride. When I mentioned TCs I meant it as they could have some influence on P&R rules for trails on park lands like we did at Beatty. Not sure how the relationship between THTBs and Char-Meck P&R is sitting at the moment... What about RRT? or WWC? those are private and could set their own rules right? Not that Im going to buy an eBike but Im sure we'll start seeing more and more and it would be nice to have clarity on the rules. I would assume private can do whatever they want.... I would think ebikes would follow under motorized vehicles for guidelines ?

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pearl Little Ring Offline Posts: 542 Location: Charlotte Joined: 11/10/15	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #54 - 04/21/17 at 6:34pm	Print Post
	so we can ride dirt bikes at WWC and RRT? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) TIME TO SELL THE SCALPEL

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Sierra_bravo Coaster Bike Offline Way to many post Posts: 116 Location: East Charlotte Joined: 02/28/17	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #55 - 04/21/17 at 9:46pm	Print Post
	That thing looks more like a enclosed dirt bike than a, dare I say, mountain bike. At least the levo is subtle

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IntheBush Big Ring Offline Posts: 2031 Location: South of the border Joined: 10/30/09	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #56 - 04/21/17 at 10:05pm	Print Post
	Doc00t wrote on 04/21/17 at 4:28pm: Sure but WWC is a business. If I was in it for the money I would have a fleet of them for rent to general public and make a killing, just make sure they sign the liability waiver. Yep, that's what it's all about. It's all a business, in one shape or form. Hey, as long as we're heading in this direction, how about a few handicap ramps over the roots at Beatty, or out at Fishstix.
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mountainbiker90 Small Cog Offline Is it 5 yet?? Posts: 384 Joined: 01/22/06	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #57 - 04/22/17 at 3:20am	Print Post
	So I had to google that. 5200 Watts? 80km/h? Sign me up!

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renoirbud Small Cog Offline Newbie Posts: 442 Location: China Grove Joined: 12/12/06	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #58 - 04/22/17 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	Interesting event happened at Sea Otter yesterday AM; Posted by Christina Probert Turner (Wife of Dave Turner, Owner of Turner Bikes) Wtf @haibike... Head on crash with a @haibike ebike on a blind corner, the girl on the ebike was going so fast she couldn't stop or handle the speed and going against traffic...Ebikes aren't allowed on the single track that I was riding! No one seems to care, @Haibike says "that's people", wtf.. My whole body aches cause of the crash....

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The Cycle Path IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline Treasurer '11 to '18. Trail Chair '12-'18, '20-'21 Posts: 11858 Location: Lake Norman Joined: 08/04/03	Re: any E-bikers out there? Reply #59 - 04/22/17 at 6:52pm	Print Post
	renoirbud wrote on 04/22/17 at 12:47pm: Interesting event happened at Sea Otter yesterday AM; Posted by Christina Probert Turner (Wife of Dave Turner, Owner of Turner Bikes) Wtf @haibike... Head on crash with a @haibike ebike on a blind corner, the girl on the ebike was going so fast she couldn't stop or handle the speed and going against traffic...Ebikes aren't allowed on the single track that I was riding! No one seems to care, @Haibike says "that's people", wtf.. My whole body aches cause of the crash.... Haibike is kinda right. Crash would have happened regardless of the kind of bike ridden. That's a clueless, unaware rider's fault.

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