Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5  Print
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) any E-bikers out there? (Read 7090 times)
IntheBush
Big Ring
*****
Offline



Posts: 2031
Location: South of the border
Joined: 10/30/09
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #60 - 04/22/17 at 8:59pm
Print Post  
The Cycle Path wrote on 04/22/17 at 6:52pm:

Haibike is kinda right.  Crash would have happened regardless of the kind of bike ridden.  That's a clueless, unaware rider's fault.


Hey Mark, how far off are airbags and self riding bikes at fish stix?  Smiley
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
sager
Big Ring
*****
Offline


Waiting for my next ride!

Posts: 1343
Location: Charlotte
Joined: 11/02/08
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #61 - 04/23/17 at 7:20pm
Print Post  
There is money to be made here. Interesting dilemma.
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
ChosenOne
Little Ring
****
Offline



Posts: 600
Joined: 11/02/08
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #62 - 04/24/17 at 10:19pm
Print Post  
I might get one just to pi$$ off all the haters. 

Until the spandex crowd jumps in... then I'm out.
« Last Edit: 04/24/17 at 10:20pm by ChosenOne »  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
IntheBush
Big Ring
*****
Offline



Posts: 2031
Location: South of the border
Joined: 10/30/09
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #63 - 04/25/17 at 1:35pm
Print Post  
Does anyone really think these things wont increase bike speeds on trails?  Roll Eyes

Just wait until the Strava crowd gets a hold of 'em. I think common sense indicates that some riders are going to go just as fast as they can possibly go for the sake of besting their buddies time, etc.. Whether it's prudent or not.

And if it causes trouble, there will be a public outcry. It's already happening in other parts of the country.

Just sayin'..
« Last Edit: 04/25/17 at 1:42pm by IntheBush »  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Sierra_bravo
Coaster Bike
**
Offline


Way to many post

Posts: 116
Location: East Charlotte
Joined: 02/28/17
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #64 - 04/25/17 at 10:51pm
Print Post  
^^^He's right you know.

As someone who flew(and flies) model aircraft, E bikes remind me way too much of the made up drone dilemma. They start off as something for the pros, then get simplified for the Joes, then the Joes don't know how to handle it and crash blaming the device, and then someone at CNN learns about it and next thing you know you'll have to register your E-bike and take a drivers course so the general public can calm down. Hopefully, if a E-bike (scare) story reaches the desk of a CNN script editor they'll toss it out. If they don't though, it'll probably blow over in about a month.

RAMFB Cheesy
-Sam
« Last Edit: 04/25/17 at 10:52pm by Sierra_bravo »  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

Professional New Guy-Will work for bike parts
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
The Cycle Path
IB Room
In The Loop
Project Board
Offline


Treasurer '11 to '18.
Trail Chair '12-'18,
'20-'21

Posts: 11858
Location: Lake Norman
Joined: 08/04/03
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #65 - 04/26/17 at 3:48pm
Print Post  
IntheBush wrote on 04/25/17 at 1:35pm:
Does anyone really think these things wont increase bike speeds on trails?  Roll Eyes

Just wait until the Strava crowd gets a hold of 'em. I think common sense indicates that some riders are going to go just as fast as they can possibly go for the sake of besting their buddies time, etc.. Whether it's prudent or not.

And if it causes trouble, there will be a public outcry. It's already happening in other parts of the country.

Just sayin'..


Sierra Club says the same thing about mountain bikes in general.
You should stop watching CNN and FOX News and relax.  Smiley
« Last Edit: 04/26/17 at 3:52pm by The Cycle Path »  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

We carry the finest from Specialized, Yeti, Transition, and Kona.
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Banjopickin
Big Ring
*****
Offline


Spinnin' knees & Hittin'
trees since '85

Posts: 1805
Location: Pisgah National Forest, USA
Joined: 08/01/11
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #66 - 04/26/17 at 4:06pm
Print Post  
I dont see a major issue with most eBikes available now...

They dont go that much faster than a traditional pedal bike used by someone who is fit and experienced.

The issue will be when these bikes get faster, cheaper, and easier to control. Then I could see the ebike equivalent of 125cc dirt bike on trails. Electric motors can pack a punch and I would not want them on trails shared with runners, hikers, and pedal bike folks.

If you allow eBikes in general you would have to make exceptions based on motor output, speed, pedal assist vs. straight throttle, etc. Or just say "no ebikes" and let it roll.

  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

Advocat wrote on 08/22/13 at 5:16pm:
...packin some Chub in the back of the pick-up.


(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
FredRubble
Little Ring
****
Offline


Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers

Posts: 509
Location: Mineral Springs
Joined: 05/28/14
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #67 - 04/26/17 at 5:05pm
Print Post  
I'm slapping some cranks and pedals on this bad boy!!  bRAAAAP!!!!

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
IntheBush
Big Ring
*****
Offline



Posts: 2031
Location: South of the border
Joined: 10/30/09
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #68 - 04/27/17 at 12:32am
Print Post  
The Cycle Path wrote on 04/26/17 at 3:48pm:


Sierra Club says the same thing about mountain bikes in general.
You should stop watching CNN and FOX News and relax.  Smiley
 

 
Maybe they knew where all this was heading..

It is true, nothing is sacred anymore. The masses are all heading in the same direction.
Up I-77 at rush hour. At least they're heading in your direction. Smiley
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
IntheBush
Big Ring
*****
Offline



Posts: 2031
Location: South of the border
Joined: 10/30/09
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #69 - 04/27/17 at 2:23am
Print Post  
Banjopickin wrote on 04/26/17 at 4:06pm:

The issue will be when these bikes get faster, cheaper, and easier to control. Then I could see the ebike equivalent of 125cc dirt bike on trails. Electric motors can pack a punch and I would not want them on trails shared with runners, hikers, and pedal bike folks.

If you allow eBikes in general you would have to make exceptions based on motor output, speed, pedal assist vs. straight throttle, etc. Or just say "no ebikes" and let it roll.



Yeah, I can't wait to see how they would enforce that.
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
IntheBush
Big Ring
*****
Offline



Posts: 2031
Location: South of the border
Joined: 10/30/09
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #70 - 05/03/17 at 1:08am
Print Post  
So, I'm riding the Greenway on my single speed today.

Some old Japanese guy on a cyclocross or urban style E-bike goes by me like I'm standing still. He had racks, panniers, battery packs, the works.. And a rather obnoxious and extremely loud bell that he kept ringing constantly.
The bike must have weighed 50 lbs. 
Dude rode like Lance Armstrong.. Powers up the steepest hill, doesn't change gears, doesn't get out of the seat or break a sweat..

Never saw him again.  Undecided
« Last Edit: 05/03/17 at 2:00am by IntheBush »  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
ChosenOne
Little Ring
****
Offline



Posts: 600
Joined: 11/02/08
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #71 - 05/03/17 at 2:13am
Print Post  
I am not a racer boy power ranger 29er... but I got skillz.
I ride about 10 or more miles almost every single day... and have done so for quite a long time... to the point if trails are closed I will ride the WWC gravel paths to get my time in.  Side effect of this is the more days I go w/o a break the more painfull my ride is.  I have a hard time not pushing myself when I ride.  Interleaving an ebike into my regimen would allow me to work on my speed skills without over training my legs.


Probably not what the haters want to hear...
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bikermedic
Little Ring
****
Offline


Swim, Bike, Run 140.6

Posts: 904
Joined: 04/07/09
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #72 - 05/03/17 at 12:55pm
Print Post  
My take:

If a trail is open to motorized vehicles E-Bikes Ok

If a trail is closed to motorized vehicles E-Bikes not Ok

Nuf said....
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
renoirbud
Small Cog
***
Offline


Newbie

Posts: 442
Location: China Grove
Joined: 12/12/06
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #73 - 05/03/17 at 5:28pm
Print Post  
bikermedic wrote on 05/03/17 at 12:55pm:
My take:

If a trail is open to motorized vehicles E-Bikes Ok

If a trail is closed to motorized vehicles E-Bikes not Ok

Nuf said....


Exactly correct.

Every other opinion will result in additional injuries and trail closures.
« Last Edit: 05/03/17 at 5:29pm by renoirbud »  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

E-Bikes = Trail Closures
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
btalley
Big Ring
*****
Offline


aka "Lil Bill" or "Squatch"

Posts: 1483
Location: Mooresville, NC
Joined: 08/03/10
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #74 - 05/04/17 at 11:23am
Print Post  
bikermedic wrote on 05/03/17 at 12:55pm:
My take:

If a trail is open to motorized vehicles 29ers Ok

If a trail is closed to motorized vehicles 29ers not Ok

Nuf said....

Fixed it for ya
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

Everyone needs at least one boat! 

Talley's Pier 77 Marine
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
IP Logged
 
sCvHeaVens
Small Cog
***
Offline


Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers

Posts: 447
Location: Charlotte, NC
Joined: 02/12/15
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #75 - 05/04/17 at 2:07pm
Print Post  
ChosenOne wrote on 05/03/17 at 2:13am:
I am not a racer boy power ranger 29er... but I got skillz.
I ride about 10 or more miles almost every single day... and have done so for quite a long time... to the point if trails are closed I will ride the WWC gravel paths to get my time in.  Side effect of this is the more days I go w/o a break the more painfull my ride is.  I have a hard time not pushing myself when I ride.  Interleaving an ebike into my regimen would allow me to work on my speed skills without over training my legs.


Probably not what the haters want to hear... 



I also ride 15+ miles 5 days a week (usually in a row)... If you want some advice that helped me in that department - get a cheap road bike or smooth tires and either ride a trainer, neighborhood, greenway, or road and incorporate rest days.  I usually ride 1-2 hard days then do a recovery day... I'm a big boy so my recovery days usually consist of a slower paced 20-30 mile road ride so I can still burn calories while taking it easy on the legs.  I learned the hard way last year that you really cant rest the legs trying to take a recovery mtb ride as the hills are too "punchy" if that makes sense.   

An ebike probably would help you be able to ride trail; but I will bet you find it extremely difficult to take it easy on one.

  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
sCvHeaVens
Small Cog
***
Offline


Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers

Posts: 447
Location: Charlotte, NC
Joined: 02/12/15
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #76 - 05/04/17 at 2:09pm
Print Post  
IntheBush wrote on 05/03/17 at 1:08am:
So, I'm riding the Greenway on my single speed today.

Some old Japanese guy on a cyclocross or urban style E-bike goes by me like I'm standing still. He had racks, panniers, battery packs, the works.. And a rather obnoxious and extremely loud bell that he kept ringing constantly.
The bike must have weighed 50 lbs. 
Dude rode like Lance Armstrong.. Powers up the steepest hill, doesn't change gears, doesn't get out of the seat or break a sweat..

Never saw him again.  Undecided



Yeah the whole idea of it doesn't help people go any faster has got to be like a trolling contract you sign when you get one.
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
FMWilly
Coaster Bike
**
Offline


Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers

Posts: 64
Location: Fort Mill, SC
Joined: 11/28/16
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #77 - 05/04/17 at 6:28pm
Print Post  
All you e-bike haters should go out and ride one to see what they are like on the trail. I have never met anyone who test rode an e-bike who said they sucked. Next time the Cyclofest is at the US Whitewater center try one out. 
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Banjopickin
Big Ring
*****
Offline


Spinnin' knees & Hittin'
trees since '85

Posts: 1805
Location: Pisgah National Forest, USA
Joined: 08/01/11
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #78 - 05/04/17 at 6:37pm
Print Post  
FMWilly wrote on 05/04/17 at 6:28pm:
All you e-bike haters should go out and ride one to see what they are like on the trail. I have never met anyone who test rode an e-bike who said they sucked. Next time the Cyclofest is at the US Whitewater center try one out. 


I rode one at Cyclofest and can confirm that they do indeed suck.

Heavy, cumbersome at slow speeds, good luck doing any hike-a-bike with it, and I have to charge it!?! 

Now commuting, grocery getting, or just as a "get around town" bike they're fine. On singeltrack its pretty terrible.
« Last Edit: 05/04/17 at 6:39pm by Banjopickin »  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

Advocat wrote on 08/22/13 at 5:16pm:
...packin some Chub in the back of the pick-up.


(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Sierra_bravo
Coaster Bike
**
Offline


Way to many post

Posts: 116
Location: East Charlotte
Joined: 02/28/17
Re: any E-bikers out there?
Reply #79 - 05/04/17 at 9:03pm
Print Post  
Banjopickin wrote on 05/04/17 at 6:37pm:

Heavy, cumbersome at slow speeds, good luck doing any hike-a-bike with it, and I have to charge it!?! 

Now commuting, grocery getting, or just as a "get around town" bike they're fine. On singeltrack its pretty terrible.


Amen, nuff said

An ebike roadie is a good idea though, although it'd suck to go on a long ride and have the battery die because you forgot to charge it. My Allez(aluminum) already feels heavy on hills after 12 or so miles, and it's 16-18lbs or so 

  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted)

Professional New Guy-Will work for bike parts
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 
Print