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1X9 drivetrain?
06/13/17 at 1:25pm
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One of the bikes I'm looking at, the Raleigh Tokul 2, has a 1X9 drivetrain. I typically ride trails no tougher than the lake loop at WWC at this time but I may go harder if my skill (and age) allow. It's a 32T front and a 12-36 rear cassette. Should I just stick with a typical 3X setup or give 1X9 a try?
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Re: 1X9 drivetrain?
Reply #1 - 06/13/17 at 1:56pm
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give 1x a try.   

advantages
less parts means less that can go wrong
less parts means lighter bike
less gears makes the ride more simple, less to think about
1 x looks better
more ground clearance without a large ring
Can use a Narrow wide on front to reduce chain drops

disadvantages
you can't spin up a super steep hill traveling at the same speed or even slower then you can walk it
  
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Reply #2 - 06/13/17 at 2:39pm
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Go for a 2 x. Those are fairly high gears
  
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Sorry, didn't realize it was a 27.5. It's still a bit high in gears. But not as bad if it was a 29
  
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I don't disagree with any of the previously mentioned advantages of 1x. But that bike is on the heavy side and the gearing is on the high side. You may find it to be a struggle on even modest climbs, depending on your strength and conditioning. So it may not be a bike you can grow with if you want to move to more rigorous trails. Just my 2 cents.
  
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Cherokee wrote on 06/13/17 at 5:13pm:
I don't disagree with any of the previously mentioned advantages of 1x. But that bike is on the heavy side and the gearing is on the high side. You may find it to be a struggle on even modest climbs, depending on your strength and conditioning. So it may not be a bike you can grow with if you want to move to more rigorous trails. Just my 2 cents.

So a 3X might be better in that weight range bike? My previous bike was a Giant Talon 3. I stayed on the middle ring (34t with 11-34 cassette) 99% of the time and really only used the first 3-4 gears on the rear.
  
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Reply #6 - 06/13/17 at 6:20pm
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unless you ride a lot of pavement or long dowhills, you don't need a 3 x. Try to find a 2 x. Or look for a lower cost 1 x 10 or 11
  
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DamnYankee wrote on 06/13/17 at 5:50pm:

So a 3X might be better in that weight range bike? My previous bike was a Giant Talon 3. I stayed on the middle ring (34t with 11-34 cassette) 99% of the time and really only used the first 3-4 gears on the rear.


If you've dealt with that gear ratio and prob a similar weight bike, then go for it if you like the bike. But I don't know how much climbing you've done. You might appreciate the extra range of more than 1 chain ring or a broader cassette on a 1x if you start getting into more strenuous trails. But you know what you want and need better than any of us. Above all, enjoy yourself!
  
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Reply #8 - 06/14/17 at 12:30am
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1x9?  Seems like an odd combo today...  I can see swapping a 3x9 to a 1x9 on an older bike but a new bike w/ 1x9 seems off.

1xWhatever is limiting in the purest sense but on the trails I ride around here I rarely hit the front small sprocket.   
I just took my old 3x9->2x9 conversion to a 2x10.  This was a low-buck, solid, upgrade that I am very happy with the cost and performance outcome.

New bike I would absolutely do a 1x11 or 1x12.
  
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Reply #9 - 06/14/17 at 1:02am
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32 front with a 36 rear seems like plenty of gear for you.  My one by 10 is set up with a 32 front and a 36 big gear on the back so your low gear is equivalent to mine and it is a 29er.  Whether you get a 9 speed rear or a 12 speed rear, the top gear and the low gear is close to the same, +/- one or two teeth.  The difference is in between with smaller ratio changes on a 12 speed vs. a 9 speed.  Buy what you want and ride it hard.
  
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Reply #10 - 06/14/17 at 10:26am
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If I was to go for the 1 x , after trying it for yourself
You could always change the front ring to a 30.
  
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I bought my bike when 2x were really taking over, it has a 12x36 in the back and a 32/22 up front. That was the stock gearing, and I have had no trouble with it. I like having the lower granny ring. I can bailout of more pridiciments. But then, I'm on a 29er and I'm a bit older. So there's a good chance you're a stronger rider then I. The one thing that I miss about the triple, was the pivot point used to get over large logs. But I guess that is not needed anymore 8 Embarrassed Cry
  
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Reply #12 - 06/14/17 at 11:52am
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I agree with traildog; when I first switched to a 1X10 that was my granny gear (32 w/ 36) and I quickly got used to it (I was a lot more out of shape then than now - not that I'm in "good" shape).  Everything local is short and punchy climbs so no worries there with that gearing.
  
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Reply #13 - 06/14/17 at 12:07pm
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ROrange Rider wrote on 06/14/17 at 10:36am:
I bought my bike when 2x were really taking over, it has a 12x36 in the back and a 32/22 up front. That was the stock gearing, and I have had no trouble with it. I like having the lower granny ring. I can bailout of more pridiciments. But then, I'm on a 29er and I'm a bit older. So there's a good chance you're a stronger rider then I. The one thing that I miss about the triple, was the pivot point used to get over large logs. But I guess that is not needed anymore 8 Embarrassed Cry


Douglas I need to ride with you then; the guys I ride with that have 25-35 years on me whip up on me.
  
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Reply #14 - 06/14/17 at 12:17pm
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Thanks for all the info guys. I went ahead and purchased the Tokul 2. I signed up for a Raleigh corporate account and got the bike at a significant discount over what was originally listed as price. It was actually cheaper than the Giant Talon 3 but has better components. I'm pretty psyched but I have to wait til Monday for delivery  Cry.
  
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Reply #15 - 06/14/17 at 4:27pm
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sCvHeaVens wrote on 06/14/17 at 11:52am:
I agree with traildog; when I first switched to a 1X10 that was my granny gear (32 w/ 36) and I quickly got used to it (I was a lot more out of shape then than now - not that I'm in "good" shape).  Everything local is short and punchy climbs so no worries there with that gearing.

Nice to have gearing for when you travel to the mountains. I'm not the greatest technical rider, but being a big fat dude. I dig bombing down hills. One of the reasons I like Pisgah and DuPont. Most of the trails are slow uphills and fast downhills. So even though I hike up a lot, I do ride sometimes. Gears for around hear, are not always the best choice Wink 
  
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