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WWC East Main Trail
07/17/17 at 5:10pm
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I've been riding for a while, but for some reason have never tried the east main trail at the WWC. It's a blue so I expect some difficulty, come on man. I'm older 49, but not overly fat and gross yet and consider myself in decent shape. I couldn't come close to finishing this trail without walking. Is it me? I know it's me. Who out there is riding this trail and completing it? Seriously your on your bike the whole time enjoying trails like this? You add the rocks and roots to those hills, impossible. I know it's mountain biking, but just to have some flatness every now and then, maybe some decent flow would be nice. I guess I'm just curious if most of you enjoy riding hills the whole time.
If by chance you have completed this course can I train under you.
  
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Re: WWC East Main Trail
Reply #1 - 07/17/17 at 5:14pm
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It's the heat-n-humidity that makes you feel sluggish.  Keep it up & by the time fall rolls around you'll be clearing all of East Main with no problems.  I've suffered quit a bit on those hills, too, but I've learned to love the pain as it is lessened with consistency.
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Re: WWC East Main Trail
Reply #2 - 07/17/17 at 5:17pm
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You're right.

Try it in the morning after a good rain when it's good and greasy if you want a real challenge.
Make sure you bring your XC race tires..  

Fortunately, it's not a regular destination in my rotation. But it's good to head over there occasionally to remind me I'm not 25 anymore. And no amount of training's going to undo that.  Smiley
  
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Re: WWC East Main Trail
Reply #3 - 07/17/17 at 5:27pm
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I'm 55 and have no issue with it. Most of the time on a Single Speed, sometimes even rigid. I have a buddy that lives close by and he rides it regularly on a single and he is at leat 62 now and a good 15lbs overweight. FWIW, East is not very high on my list of favorite parts at WWC, but you cant say you rode a full lap unless you ride it all.

A full 28 mile lap at WWC has some demands, but overal the place pales in difficulty when it comes to 2 laps Rocky RIver on a Single Speed
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Reply #4 - 07/17/17 at 5:35pm
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The Elk wrote on 07/17/17 at 5:10pm:
maybe some decent flow would be nice.


East Main has fantastic flow. Add it to your regular rotation and you'll get it. You will suffer a bit at first, but it gets easier quickly. Join some group rides to get a feel for how others are riding it. 
  
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Reply #5 - 07/17/17 at 5:59pm
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East Main has fantastic flow? 

Dang.. I must be thinking about a different trail. 

I did 8.5 miles over at Cane Creek this morning on the Motobecane full squish, 11 speed bulldozer and I thought I was kicking some butt. Apparently, I'm doing these wussy rides and I didn't even know it.

You guys let me know next time you're doing 2 laps at Rocky River in the 100 degrees. I might stop by and spectate.
  
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Reply #6 - 07/17/17 at 6:08pm
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I'm 53 and East Main ain't that big a deal!!  Rocky River...One full lap with all options plus going back around on the Green route is all I want--and then some!
  
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Reply #7 - 07/17/17 at 7:00pm
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you guys dont know how good you got it down here. come ride up in the tri-state area and youll wish east main was as hard as it got!

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one of my favorite trails back home.

ill agree it is pretty demanding cardiowise, but nothing over the top...
  
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Re: WWC East Main Trail
Reply #8 - 07/17/17 at 7:15pm
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IntheBush wrote on 07/17/17 at 5:59pm:
Grin

East Main has fantastic flow? 

Dang.. I must be thinking about a different trail. 

I did 8.5 miles over at Cane Creek this morning on the Motobecane full squish, 11 speed bulldozer and I thought I was kicking some butt. Apparently, I'm doing these wussy rides and I didn't even know it.

You guys let me know next time you're doing 2 laps at Rocky River in the 100 degrees. I might stop by and spectate.


Aww come on Bush, you cant be a wussy all your life. toughin up
  
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Re: WWC East Main Trail
Reply #9 - 07/17/17 at 7:23pm
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I think the east main extension is the hardest trail there but really like it. While not insanely hard, it is more technical than the rest of the park. MTB riding in this area is way too dumbed down in the name of flow (IMHO of course).  East main is more old school real mtn biking. I like RRT for this reason also. They aren't easy, but who says easy is always fun??
  
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Reply #10 - 07/17/17 at 7:27pm
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pearl wrote on 07/17/17 at 7:00pm:
you guys dont know how good you got it down here. come ride up in the tri-state area and youll wish east main was as hard as it got!

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one of my favorite trails back home.

ill agree it is pretty demanding cardiowise, but nothing over the top...


That looks like the Boy Scout Camp in Allamuchy
  
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Reply #11 - 07/17/17 at 7:42pm
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I knew it. This is the kind of stuff I hear all the time, but have never seen it. That could be because you guys are all passing me and I'm miles behind, you. I did park myself at the bottom of goat hill one day just to see how many guys made it up, zero. They all looked like pros too. I just can't see myself after all the uphill finally getting to that small bridge and then just pedaling up that hill with the rocks and roots. That thing goes and goes, sharp turn, then goes and goes. I need somebody to take me under their wing and teach me the ways of the force. I've hit most the trails around Charlotte, but never Rocky Road it seems maybe I should stay far away from that one. 


I loved the "it has great flow", your going uphill like eighty percent of the time.  You have to be the most positive person.
  
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Reply #12 - 07/17/17 at 7:49pm
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Shredder wrote on 07/17/17 at 7:27pm:


That looks like the Boy Scout Camp in Allamuchy


This is the Water Co Trails down in Lambertville actually!

Our team puts on a Short Track race up that way, it's pretty rad!
  
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Reply #13 - 07/17/17 at 7:51pm
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The Elk wrote on 07/17/17 at 7:42pm:
I knew it. This is the kind of stuff I hear all the time, but have never seen it. That could be because you guys are all passing me and I'm miles behind, you. I did park myself at the bottom of goat hill one day just to see how many guys made it up, zero. They all looked like pros too. I just can't see myself after all the uphill finally getting to that small bridge and then just pedaling up that hill with the rocks and roots. That thing goes and goes, sharp turn, then goes and goes. I need somebody to take me under their wing and teach me the ways of the force. I've hit most the trails around Charlotte, but never Rocky Road it seems maybe I should stay far away from that one. 


I loved the "it has great flow", your going uphill like eighty percent of the time.  You have to be the most positive person.


I clean Goat Hill on my rigid singlespeed 33x18. It isn't the prettiest thing, but singlespeeding usually isnt Wink I will say that is a booger of a climb, something pretty unique in the area.

The only way to get better at this stuff is keep trying. Keep riding, keep getting stronger. That is the fun part of MTBing, the skills only get better the more you ride! Try and link up with people who are a little out of your comfort range and let them drag you around. It will come to you Smiley
  
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Re: WWC East Main Trail
Reply #14 - 07/17/17 at 8:32pm
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Yeah Goat and East aren't that bad, just a bit of repetition and you will get it.  If a climb is challenging give a few tries at sessioning it instead of rolling straight to the next part of trail. It helps to do some repeats of the climbs as it helps you to remember the length of each climb and where the techy stuff is. Good luck!
  
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Reply #15 - 07/17/17 at 8:57pm
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I'm an extremely novice racer and only slightly better trail rider.  It is a challenge, but yes I make it up Goat trail.  I would say if you did not see anyone make it up goat hill then you didn't watch any "pros" climb then hill.  Even the top level beginner level class guys can clean that hill w/o issue.
  
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Reply #16 - 07/17/17 at 9:45pm
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The Elk wrote on 07/17/17 at 7:42pm:
I knew it. This is the kind of stuff I hear all the time, but have never seen it. That could be because you guys are all passing me and I'm miles behind, you. I did park myself at the bottom of goat hill one day just to see how many guys made it up, zero. They all looked like pros too. I just can't see myself after all the uphill finally getting to that small bridge and then just pedaling up that hill with the rocks and roots. That thing goes and goes, sharp turn, then goes and goes. I need somebody to take me under their wing and teach me the ways of the force. I've hit most the trails around Charlotte, but never Rocky Road it seems maybe I should stay far away from that one. 


I loved the "it has great flow", your going uphill like eighty percent of the time.  You have to be the most positive person.


Hey Elk..

You know what I learned along time ago.. People can do all sorts of things on the internets..

Only way to know for sure is, to meet 'em out there and watch 'em do it.

The other option is to hang out at RRT and maybe you'll run into everybodies hero Lance. I'm sure he can help you scale Goat Hill, etc.. no problemo.  

Me? 

Heck, I was a legend in my own mind long before I found this place.  And I've got better things to do than snap my leg in half trying to peddle up the ridiculous, or be a beta tester for mountain bike helmets.. I guess everbody's got their own cup o' tea.

And yes Enoch, I still prefer wussy.  Smiley
  
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Reply #17 - 07/17/17 at 10:12pm
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flynbryan19 wrote on 07/17/17 at 8:57pm:
I would say if you did not see anyone make it up goat hill then you didn't watch any "pros" climb then hill.  Even the top level beginner level class guys can clean that hill w/o issue.


Quoted for truth. 

The hardest part of goat is the very bottom and even that is way easier now.  The trail used to go in from the left more and drop down a bit further into the loose rocky section. 

Goat gets way easier toward the top. That part is just conditioning. 

As far as flow goes, I really dislike academy. It doesn't have any flow or challenging sections. Just gotta slog it out on the SS. I ride that trail first to get it out of the way and then go over to east main. The rest is a bit easier from there out. 

Keep on it and you'll get there.
  
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Re: WWC East Main Trail
Reply #18 - 07/17/17 at 11:40pm
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Took me four or five tries to clean Goat Hill. It helps to break it into sections in your mind and tackle these small segments first. I still do it on the Gorge Climb at RRT (to me, there is Gorge Beginning, Gorge Middle, and Gorge End). Sometimes, I can only make one or two of them. Been riding seven years and still can't clean the whole trail  (RRT). But it's all good man. We all start at different places due to our backgrounds, experience, and fitness level. 

But even if you only get a few feet closer on your next try, you'll have shown improvement. And some days you might come up even shorter than before but we all have days when our hearts or legs just aren't feeling it. Just remember - if no one was able to ride it, it wouldn't be there. The fact that it's there makes it "doable" by default. Keep that in mind before you let a section of trail intimidate you too much. 

Trust me on breaking it into smaller sections though...
  
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Reply #19 - 07/18/17 at 12:50am
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Yeah Elk..

Be careful out there and don't get hurt. In my view it just isn't worth it.

Everybody's got to decide what degree of risk is acceptable to them when they ride and on what they ride. And then live with the consequences. It truly is a Darwin type sport. 

Survival of the fittest. Which is another word for the smartest.

That being said, none of us come into this sport or continue in it completely unscathed. 

I consider myself to be a little more careful than most, growing up during a time without cell phones, lightweight safety equipment, and hospitals and rescue crews nearby. And I ride mostly alone. It ensures that I always ride a little behind the edge of things and my ability.

And to be honest with you, at 56, I don't see any reason to change at this point. It doesn't mean I don't push things occasionally under ideal conditions. It just means broken arms, legs, blown out knees, etc.. take a long time to heal at my age. And it's best avoided. 

A certain degree of suffering is inevitable. But excess suffering aint fun. Especially if it only leads to the doctors office.
  
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