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To Drop or not to Drop... That is the Question...
08/24/17 at 11:34pm
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Ok, so you probably saw in the market place, I am considering removing and selling my dropper post that came on my bike build...

"2017 Kindshock LEV Integra - 125mm"

I halfheartedly put it out there to gauge interest and expectantly so, with no price, not much interest.  I am doing a bunch of other work on it this weekend and part of that could be the removal of this.  

On one side I think I could lose about 1/2 to 3/4 lbs just popping a regular Thomson in.
On the other side I ask myself if im missing out on something...  I have never used it...  Been riding for 30 some odd years...  And I just dont get why I do need it?  I get the principle, just dont get the execution.  And riding I have never ever thought to grab the thumb lever...

Where in Charlotte do you use a dropper at?
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Reply #1 - 08/24/17 at 11:49pm
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INTENSEcretAgent wrote on 08/24/17 at 11:34pm:


Where in Charlotte do you use a dropper at?


Use them In the parking lot. That way everyone can see how cool you are , having a dropper and everything...
  
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Enoch wrote on 08/24/17 at 11:49pm:
Use them In the parking lot. That way everyone can see how cool you are , having a dropper and everything...

Rolling on the floor laughing!  Exactly my point...
  
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Reply #3 - 08/25/17 at 1:43am
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Enoch wrote on 08/24/17 at 11:49pm:


Use them In the parking lot. That way everyone can see how cool you are , having a dropper and everything...


This is quoted for truth... sort of.

the wife has a dropper post on her bike...  only time it is used is to drop the seat to get it on the bike rack in the parking lot so it doesn't hit my handlebars.  NEVER once has she used it on the trail to improve her riding position on the bike relative to the terrain. 
  
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Reply #4 - 08/25/17 at 1:58am
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technically in charlotte ya don't "need" one. I use  mine a lot in the mountains, gap jumps at byt and things like that's. Since I have one I also have gotten use to using it in charlotte on all the steeper downhill and drops just becuase. 
Mine started getting wonky and I sent it in to Thompson for a rebuild, while it was gone I reinstalled my tried and true none dropper, after a few days I stopped reaching for the button and didn't find myself needing it. I also would not attempt the pipe jump at byt without one, i'd take the go around. Basically if you don't ride stuff steep enough to have to sit on your back tire or landing a jump, sell it.
  
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Reply #5 - 08/25/17 at 2:01am
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I wouldn't own a bike without one. I have been using one since 2011. I hated it when I was forced to go back to a normal post when my dropper was out for warranty service. 

Keep it and learn to love it.  If it's a road bike just sell the whole thing
  
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Reply #6 - 08/25/17 at 11:23am
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Are you crazy?!?  Don't sell it!  Every real "core" mtn bike mag says you gotta have one.  They're so "enduro"....

Joking aside, I'm with you.  I've never found an occasion riding the charlotte/greensboro area trails I ride where I've needed it.  I just don't see the point of carrying around the extra dead weight.  I've been eyeballing new bikes and some of the one in my price range come w/ droppers.  If I get one w/ a dropper I'll give it an honest shot before pulling it off, but for the trails I ride it seems pointless.
  
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Reply #7 - 08/25/17 at 12:19pm
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I use mine all the time; I find it more useful in Charlotte for flats and uphills to get the legs more extended for power, so when I hit downhill / curves I drop it as it's pretty darn high.
  
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Enoch wrote on 08/24/17 at 11:49pm:


Use them In the parking lot. That way everyone can see how cool you are , having a dropper and everything...



Jerry also feels the same way about gears, moving forks, and straight handlebars.
  
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Reply #9 - 08/25/17 at 1:28pm
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Reasons to keep: go downhill fast, have fun on jumps, normal "function" (see below)

Reasons to sell: drop grams like a roadie, money for beer, take a nice slap to the "undercarriage" jumping and hopping stuff; aka blue balls
  
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Reply #10 - 08/25/17 at 3:19pm
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I would give up one of my brakes to keep my dropper without hesitating....

If you have never used one they dont look like they are all that important but once you start using it you will find dozens of little spots where having a more rearward body position (with seat down) helps you go faster and stay in control. 

I dont mean this to pass judgement on someone's abilities but dropper posts tend to help more advanced/aggressive riders more than those who keep both wheels on the ground and arent pushing it on descents.

If you are keeping both wheels on the ground, arent one to bunnyhop or jump anything, and 99% of your riding is in Charlotte you dont "need" one.

But they are second to none for riding steep/tech....

  
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Reply #11 - 08/25/17 at 3:19pm
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If you don't think you need it, sell it. 

Many people feel they don't need gears, or suspension either. That's their choice. And for how they like to ride and what they think of as "fun" i'm sure they are making the right choice. 

I personally would never not have a dropper again. When I bought my current bike it had a reverb on it. I gave it a try but quickly decided to sell it because it was too much to think about, and I found I never really used it. 

Once I started riding more in Pisgah (with someone who had a dropper) I started to realize how nice it would be to always have my seat at the ideal height without having to stop to adjust it. I decided to give it another try. There is definitely a learning curve, but after getting used to it I find my self using it all the time, even on Charlotte trails. It becomes second nature after a while. Just like shifting. For me, it just makes riding more fun, and that is why I ride.
  
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Reply #12 - 08/25/17 at 7:18pm
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I'm a dropper addict.  I might not change gears on a trail but the dropper probably got a workout.  In my case it is due to being a lazy rider with bad technique.  I have set the post so I don't stand on climbs and I rely too much on the drop to keep me from being too far forward on descents.  Dont be like me, dont use a dropper.
  
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Reply #13 - 08/26/17 at 12:22am
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Dead weight for me. Just something else to go wrong out on the trail somewhere..

I can do bunny hops and small jumps just fine, and I've had no trouble getting behind my seat without one for years.

I could see where it could be beneficial for more steep/technical stuff in the mountains, etc..

To each his own.
  
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Reply #14 - 08/26/17 at 2:06am
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Each to his own but man do I use it a lot and everywhere I ride. I use it as much as I use my brakes..lol. Climbing dropper up, hitting the jumps dropper down, going down sketchy DH dropper down, fast cornering dropper down to turn with the waist versus simply turning handlebars, etc.  just me, my dropper is another tool to enhance my rides. Droppwr isn't for everyone but it sure is for me. One good reason I use dropper..
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Reply #15 - 08/29/17 at 2:00pm
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Yeah, you tube has a bazillion vids on it...  I was just looking for the local perspective...

I particularly like the one vid where the bloke did a time trial to see if he was faster losing weight weenie weight, or the "added maneuverability" of having the post...

Took a pretty objective approach to a very subjective outcome...  Informational none the less.

Thanks all to their contributions here!
  
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I had built my new Nimble 9 with a regular seat post and a Chromag quick release.  I thought I could save some money and some weight.  I was constantly  playing with it at every stop up in the mountains.  Evently I broke the quick release after about 6 months.   

Just got a Fox Transfer, weighed it before installing just out of curiosity. 564 grams compared to the 278 grams of standard seatpost.  Do I notice the weight difference when riding, not really.  Do I have a whole lot more fun on my bike, for sure. Totally worth it for me.   

But if you are the type of rider that never lowers your seat, complete waste.

Oh and early review on Fox Transfer, Great product.
  
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Reply #17 - 08/29/17 at 5:11pm
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Enoch wrote on 08/24/17 at 11:49pm:


Use them In the parking lot. That way everyone can see how cool you are , having a dropper and everything...


Lol Wink

I use the dropper all the time, similar to what others have said in this thread.  It's a great tool and in my opinion an essential piece of mtb equipment, especially if you ride aggressively.  It helps with bunny hopping large obstacles, moving your body on the bike in turns, hitting jumps, etc.

I use my dropper on every section of downhill trail where I want to maneuver my bike.  Even really short stretches, it becomes second nature really quick and I think it increases the fun factor of my ride.

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Reply #18 - 08/30/17 at 6:28pm
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I agree with all the pro-dropper comments. I went for a few years without mostly because I didn't want to part with $300 but once I had it I never looked back. I used to ride with the seat too low for comfortable climbing but it was a sacrifice I was willing to make for the love of the downhill.   

Now I'm constantly moving it up and down. As others have mentioned it's not just for going down steeps, good technique means being able to move all over the bike without the seat getting in the way. Corners are one of the least obvious advantages... also when you end up stopping at a really awkward place on the trail it can be hard to get back on if your set is jacked all the way up....sounds lame but it really does make it easier especially in the mountains.   

This topic never gets old... lets talk about tubeless tires next please.
  
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Reply #19 - 08/30/17 at 7:35pm
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Dirkdee wrote on 08/30/17 at 6:28pm:
I agree with all the pro-dropper comments. I went for a few years without mostly because I didn't want to part with $300 but once I had it I never looked back. I used to ride with the seat too low for comfortable climbing but it was a sacrifice I was willing to make for the love of the downhill.  

Now I'm constantly moving it up and down. As others have mentioned it's not just for going down steeps, good technique means being able to move all over the bike without the seat getting in the way. Corners are one of the least obvious advantages... also when you end up stopping at a really awkward place on the trail it can be hard to get back on if your set is jacked all the way up....sounds lame but it really does make it easier especially in the mountains.  

This topic never gets old... lets talk about tubeless tires next please.

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