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Reply #20 - 09/25/17 at 12:13pm
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IntheBush wrote on 09/25/17 at 11:39am:



I ride 2-4 days a week minimum on local area trails. Sometimes more. CC, Springs, Sherman, etc..

I've got 4 bikes all currently running tubes.... ...

And I can't remember the last time I had a punctured tube. I guess I'm just skilled.  Smiley

If somebodies riding style is beating their wheels to death on sharp rocks constantly and/or running ridiculously low air pressures I can see how snake bites could be a problem. But then, even tubeless setups aren't immune to abuse.

I tried tubeless w/sealant. On one tire the valve leaked constantly, changing tires was a royal hassle and I didn't like my wheels being crusted over in that rather nasty sealant. I'm all for ditching the tubes, just looking at other options besides sealant and/or 10 lb. tires.






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Reply #21 - 09/25/17 at 12:31pm
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I've been tubeless for years with almost no issues aside from clogged valves. I would highly recommend it...

If you want to ditch toobs but dont want to run UST, sealant, etc....

Procore is what you seek...

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Or the many, many, "go fund me" startup projects out there that try to re-invent tubeless...

But if you havent popped a tube in 10 years why make the change?? Seems to be working for you...
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Reply #22 - 09/25/17 at 6:20pm
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You have three choices.  Tubes and higher pressures, Tubeless ready with sealant or UST...  That's it... Pick your poison....
  
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Reply #23 - 09/25/17 at 7:16pm
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bikermedic wrote on 09/25/17 at 6:20pm:
You have three choices.  Tubes and higher pressures, Tubeless ready with sealant or UST...  That's it... Pick your poison....

I run tubes and around 22-25 PSI on my bike 26"x2.3". Any lower and the damn tire rolls under the freaking rim... tubeless or not.  Any lower and you are busting your rims all to hell... tubeless or not.
  
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Reply #24 - 09/25/17 at 7:25pm
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Banjopickin wrote on 09/25/17 at 12:31pm:
I've been tubeless for years with almost no issues aside from clogged valves. I would highly recommend it...

If you want to ditch toobs but dont want to run UST, sealant, etc....

Procore is what you seek...

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Or the many, many, "go fund me" startup projects out there that try to re-invent tubeless...

But if you havent popped a tube in 10 years why make the change?? Seems to be working for you...



These are very intriguing if they weren't $80 each.  Tubes are $6... if I run through one tube a year I'd need 26 years to get my money back on those procores.
  
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Reply #25 - 09/25/17 at 7:29pm
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Did the time machine catch up to the current decade yet?

UST is pretty much ded.

ProCore is to help stop pinch flats in a tubeless set up, DH or Enduro applications.

I can run 17PSI w/Ardent 2.4 EXO TR on a NOX Farlow rim.  It doesn't roll off.  It doesn't burp.  It's never flatted in... seven years?

Since we're still in the year 2013 (mebbe?), let's argue about how hookless rims will never work...
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Reply #26 - 09/25/17 at 9:40pm
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Best Thread of the month.  Thank you all for a well needed laugh

How about you just set it up tubeless and ride it around for a few month and then when all the stans dries up your golden.  Nirvana achieved

  
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Reply #27 - 09/25/17 at 11:09pm
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ChosenOne wrote on 09/25/17 at 7:25pm:


These are very intriguing if they weren't $80 each.  Tubes are $6... if I run through one tube a year I'd need 26 years to get my money back on those procores.


I'm happy to see that at least basic math is not ded.   

So, I guess this means nobody here is running tubeless w/o sealant.

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Reply #28 - 09/25/17 at 11:50pm
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IntheBush wrote on 09/25/17 at 11:09pm:


I'm happy to see that at least basic math is not ded.  

So, I guess this means nobody here is running tubeless w/o sealant.

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Hi there BushyToobs. There is something oddly satisfying about stans spraying though a rather large tar puncture and sealing itself up or getting home from a mountains ride and finding 7 or so of them nasty thorns in ya tars while you realize they are still holding air and you didn't have to stop to address these concerns at all. But yea, toobs are great also Smiley
  
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Reply #29 - 09/26/17 at 12:06am
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I don't know Tally..

I guess when the only tool you've got is a hammer, every trail looks like a nail.  Smiley

I don't ride like a brick. More like a ballerina.

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Reply #30 - 09/26/17 at 12:31am
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IntheBush wrote on 09/26/17 at 12:06am:
I don't know Tally..

I guess when the only tool you've got is a hammer, every trail looks like a nail.  Smiley

I don't ride like a brick. More like a ballerina.

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Have you ever seen Sasquatch dance?  Nope! If it were to happen it wouldn't be purdy.  Not even sure how one rides like a brick or a hammer or what the nails have to do with it. A brick just sits there with other bricks.  If you ride like a ballerina then you have been mountain biking all kinds of wrong. Just because you wear spandex doesn't mean you have to dance and twirl in the woods. The fact that you haven't punctured a toob in 10 years explains a lot now...carry on
  
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Reply #31 - 09/26/17 at 1:19am
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Brick happens.. 

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Maybe they needed a little more sealant.   

Will do.   Cool
  
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Reply #32 - 09/26/17 at 2:59am
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IntheBush wrote on 09/25/17 at 11:09pm:


I'm happy to see that at least basic math is not ded.  

So, I guess this means nobody here is running tubeless w/o sealant.

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Now that is genius.
  
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Reply #33 - 09/26/17 at 11:27am
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ChosenOne wrote on 09/25/17 at 7:25pm:



These are very intriguing if they weren't $80 each.  Tubes are $6... if I run through one tube a year I'd need 26 years to get my money back on those procores.


Google... pulling up Tubeless Ready tires from $29.98.

BTW: You don't need "tubeless ready" to make it work.   

If I was only riding local trails "carefully" and not flatting tubes, I wouldn't be looking to swap to tubeless either.

That said, if I wanted to ride rip&^&^ in Pisgah, I'd rather spend a little more time in the shop than I would in the woods patching tubes.  I can remember those group mountain rides, before tubeless... lotsa bonding moments watching your buddies fix flats.

And ask anyone who flats a tubeless system how much more carefully they will ride the rest of the day with a tubed repair.

Nobody's even mentioned how awesome tire plugs work on fixing flats that are too big to seal with juice.


  
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Reply #34 - 09/26/17 at 1:19pm
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Bicycle tires were meant too have tubes in them.
  
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Reply #35 - 09/26/17 at 1:27pm
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SCOTT_T wrote on 09/26/17 at 1:19pm:
Bicycle tires were meant too have tubes in them.


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Reply #36 - 09/26/17 at 1:28pm
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teamdicky wrote on 09/26/17 at 11:27am:

Nobody's even mentioned how awesome tire plugs work on fixing flats that are too big to seal with juice.

Yes, this, tire plugs are legit...they save the day and quick!
  
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Reply #37 - 09/26/17 at 1:38pm
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OoHoO wrote on 09/26/17 at 1:28pm:

Yes, this, tire plugs are legit...they save the day and quick!



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Banjopickin wrote on 09/25/17 at 12:31pm:


If you want to ditch toobs but dont want to run UST, sealant, etc....

Procore is what you seek...

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$200?!?  Looks cool but the sticker price was a surprise.
  
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