btalley wrote on 10/20/17 at 1:37am:

It is all about droppers! ahahaha

 

Yeah, weight weenies rejoice. Seats and dropper posts? Totally unnecessary..

Always beware of the guy riding with reflectors on his bike.  

DG wrote on 10/20/17 at 1:21pm:


Not if you're night riding..

ChosenOne wrote on 10/21/17 at 2:37pm:

Very nice review brah...However, you left out the review of the WOOOOOPost  droooper on that Kenevo.  Also, would this be a good bike for the Phister Farms Gnar?

And also, are you picking a side?  ProE-Bike or Evil Anti-E-bike - we all must knows so we can discriminate accordingly.  Your review sounds a little ProE-bike to me then you tried to add some reason (which is totally unacceptable online) which sounds a little Anti-E-Bike.  I can't decide if we should hate you or h8 you.  

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ChosenOne wrote on 10/21/17 at 5:17pm:

26 ain't DEAD

From what i saw at cyclofest E-bikes are going to be around for some time.  There were so many on the trails and being pushed by the shops.  I actually talked to a rep and he said people who are against e-bikes just haven't ridden them yet.  I disagree but that mentality shows that these are high profit centers for shops and there is demand so there will be more and more on the trails.  If you have a bad attitude towards them good luck having fun on your rides while cursing under your breath (or aloud) and generally messing up your day because someone scooted by with motor assist.

Also, i demo'd a $5k bike and pretty much had the same smile on my face that i have when riding my hardtail.  Fun, YES, but not mandatory to enjoy this sport.  Kinda like when people pi  . you off on the trail riding whatever makes them happy.

Well if you want to know what the pro E-bike guys are riding...
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LOL.
Was having to much fun with this at Cyclofest not to share. They were right behind us.

sCvHeaVens wrote on 10/23/17 at 3:14pm:


On the Specialized they have a phone app called Mission Control that allows you to dial back how strong the motor comes on when you first hit the pedal.  With it dialed down, switchbacks are much more manageable as the power is better modulated.  Same with riding tighter, more technical trails.    And would also keep you from running off the trail at a casual pace like you were. 

As for the danger of two way trails I can't see there is much difference between an ebike and a regular bike.  I, for the record, hate 2 way trail and think it is dangerous on high traffic and/or high speed mountain bike trails. 

Impaler 58 wrote on 10/24/17 at 10:27am:


This is the dilemma, people sneak up on you and don't say anything, they are a-holes for not announcing their presence. They come up behind you and announce their presence and they are a-holes for thinking they own the trail just because they are a little faster than you. Ever think maybe you are the a-hole for not being aware enough to know someone is gaining on you and letting the faster rider pass? 

I do get what you are saying. Just playing devil's advocate. Serious question, What are you supposed to say to announce your presence when behind a slower rider? I usually say, "right behind you." or if I am sure my presence is known and they still do not move over after multiple obvious places to do so (flat at the top of the climb for ex.) I will say "mind if I get past?" A lot of it is the tone of voice as well. It is hard to not come off as an a-hole when asking to pass someone. 

People who expect to be granted an immediate pass of a slower rider are annoying. Unless it is an actual race, the passing rider should politely make their presence known then wait for the slower rider to find a safe spot to allow the faster rider to pass.

The other side of the argument is slow riders with equally poor trail etiquette, who refuse to move out of the way. If you see someone come out of nowhere and suddenly they are breathing down your neck, they should not have to ask for a pass, they are obviously faster than you, move over when it is safe to do so. Then there are the people riding with earbuds in and are completely oblivious to the faster rider about to buzz their rear tire. If you are going to ride a highly populated trail with BOTH earbuds in, you better be damn fast!

I would call myself an average rider, so I find myself in both situations often (passing and being passed). I try to be aware enough that the faster riders never have to ask for permission to pass, I just start looking for a good spot to move out of the way once it becomes obvious that they are gaining ground on me. They are often quite appreciative that they don't have to touch their brakes on account of me. 


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On the topic of e-bikes. I would be very annoyed if an e-biker demanded a pass toward the top of a long climb, then I was stuck behind them dragging brakes all the way down the descent because they didn't have the skills to keep an equally fast pace on the down as the motor allowed them to have on the up. 

Where are you guys riding that puts you around so many D-Bags?  Charmains Ranch? Marky Mark at Phisfer Farms?  I haven't had this experience at all.  I'm not very fast, just ask anyone or look at me strava tymes.  I get passed often but never feel like anyone has expected me to get out of their way immediately.  

Keep Calm and E-Bike On