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On the topic of e-bikes. I would be very annoyed if an e-biker demanded a pass toward the top of a long climb, then I was stuck behind them dragging brakes all the way down the descent because they didn't have the skills to keep an equally fast pace on the down as the motor allowed them to have on the up. 
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Did you ride at the wwc this weekend?!? The best was the one guy who passed me (I'm fat and old) at the top of the long hill on lake loop. He totally missed the left switchback. 

Also...if you're 300lbs (I'm 250), maybe an e-bike isn't the most healthy option. 

BudLeach wrote on 10/24/17 at 1:25pm:


True story... I was riding Beatty as I often would on weekday afternoons and there is a dude on an old Giant hardtail in front of me... I came up on him and gave plenty of space and said "Hey man Im gonna pass you on the left when you're ready...just let me know" He ignored me and sped up (still going waaay slower than my normal speed) and so I said "Hey man, Im coming on your left ok?" He replied "f*&^% you... you're just gonna have to pass me Im not moving" in an angry tone. So... I said ok and moved to the left of him in a corner and bumped him into the woods... he didnt crash or anything but was severely pissed and yelled something but I was gone...

I always wondered if he started letting others pass him after that... I felt bad but at the same time he was being a supreme A$$$$$e and I think took offense at being passed or something. Although Beatty always has the crazies lurking around... i.e. the dog lady and drunk grandmas passed out on the trail... I really miss that place...

On the topic of passing... Just let a fast rider go around when its safe for YOU... regardless of how fast they are going if its not a safe spot just communicate and be cool... If youre ego or skill is not comfortable being passed ride super early or late at night when its less likely to happen.

Unless you're racing and they wont let you pass, or if they're on an eBike... then put em in the wall...

SirNotAppearing wrote on 10/24/17 at 5:24pm:



Did you tell him helmets are required as you trailblazed past him or did you mention it to him in a polite exchange, like in an informative sort of way?   

Because if some guy breezed by me on a trail and just quipped "helmet required" I would tell him to go F himself too.   

BUMP!!!

I have the latest cool bells on my bike. And if I see riders ahead of me(this hardly ever happens) I'll start ringing my bell. It has a very friendly chime to it😀 This stuff doesn't happen very often to me, but it is still annoying. The last time I was at a mountain trail, I was riding Big Leaves Slopes. There isn't too many places that I can't clear there. But this one place had some loose rocks, and my rear tire spun in the gravel, and I had to dab. Now just to explain, in my youth. I worked the auto plants of Detroit. So even if that is not loud enough, I hung out at the loud rock and roll clubs in my free time. So my hearing is not peak. So anyway back to the dab. This youngster behind me who didn't announce his presence, said something nasty to me about doing something to my mom. He then told me the green way was close, and I should be there. Now there's this Harley Davidson motorcycle dude that walks the trail every day. And he said the kid had already done about three laps around the trail since he had been there. My original plan was to wait for him to make another lap, and repossess his cool FS. But the Harley dude talked me out of it. I guess if I had an e-bike, the kid would have been in trouble, because I would have passed the Harley dude really fast and caught up with the kid........

Impaler 58 wrote on 10/24/17 at 8:35pm:

With me you would need a high pitch horn! Apparently they audiologist said that I do not hear sounds below 40db

OoHoO wrote on 10/26/17 at 11:43pm:


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Motorcycle with pedals.

Did you read the comments? 

"Avid BB7's are highly recommended by the e-bike community."

"Single, skinny rear stays + no bolt-through axles + only a tiny pivot at the BB = rear-end with more wag than a happy puppy's tail.

I predict that it will be the rear shock's top-mount that fails in vast numbers, bankrupting this shoddy outfit. That, or the primitive pivot, that can't handle the torque from the rear hub."

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