ChosenOne wrote on 09/22/17 at 1:42pm:


Sorry, wasn't implying you were hating, just asking a crowd of mtn bikers in general what they think is likely to get some lol

DG wrote on 09/22/17 at 5:45pm:


The difference is that the things you mention are not such groundbreaking innovations that those who use them want to change the nature of the sport to accommodate them. Suspension forks and dropper posts have no effect at all on other trail users.

And I realize that the things I'm speaking of have not really happened at this point because e-bikes are too new, but they will.

Cherokee wrote on 09/22/17 at 9:56pm:

Why what's the effect of an ebikes?

ChosenOne wrote on 09/22/17 at 8:16pm:



So I can set up a badminton game in the middle of the trail?

I own a Specialized Levo and a Specialized Camber 29. If I want a good workout I use my Camber and if I want a fun (fast for uphill) I may use my e-bike. Its also good in the summer. They are not cheap and you may just want to consider a new carbon fiber bike with 1x12 gears because they are so much lighter than a regular frame mtn bike or ebike.

I have now filed all E-Bike posts, tubeless posts, news about anthem kneeling, news about trump tweets...in my "Heard about it too many times, don't give a F any more" folder.

Thanks. 

FMWilly wrote on 09/28/17 at 4:14pm:


Tell me do you think it is worth the money or we are not yet there? Why you think it is better to go with a lighter ebike? Afteralll the "weight" of the assisted motor etc is already off the chart compared to a normal bike or I am wrong?

I met someone tonight with a full squishy e-bike.  Aside from the bottom bracket and the lager down tube (battery) you couldn't discern it from any trek or specialized mountain bike.  The rider was extremely hesitant to talk about the bike due the the a$$hats that vilify these bikes.   

The rider was over 50 and had lived in europe... where these bikes are UNIVERSALLY accepted... had previously owned a more road bike specific e-bike.

I get that you don't "like" e-bikes but screw you... you are a pretentious A$$-hole.  They have gears... and are NOT capable of moving faster than those gears are are capable of propelling a bicycle. 

RAMFB

IntheBush wrote on 10/01/17 at 2:45am:

True what you say, but IMBA does not write the rules of the use of vehicle unless they own that land. These are federal laws, which makes them a little bit more official. Coming to Europe (and I talk specifically about Italy), the regulation allows any vehicle to be used everywhere unless posted otherwise, only rule that vehicles must be of mass production,  and therefore tested and approved by the department of transportation. To give you another example quads or how they are called, in Italy are street legal....
IMBA in Italy has even less power that in the USA,  I know this as the president of the Italian chapter is from Torino and a friend of mine.  This to say that they cannot regulate who go where and with what, as I said before they might look you waited if they see you. 
I personally, as stated before,  do not see anything wrong with ebikes. It will come the time I might consider to purchase one, but not yet. 
Anyway thank you for your feedback. My question is do you think that this will change? Do you think that the industry as in many other cases will promote their will and ask for changes or if is too early to say?

DG wrote on 10/01/17 at 12:23pm:


I think we will continue to see their use restricted on some trails, and encouraged on others.

Like you point out, it's up to individual land owners/managers whether to allow them or not. 

As the technology progresses I suspect we'll see e-bikes get lighter and more powerful. So, how would one regulate something with the weight of a bicycle but the power of a dirt bike? Sure, it's in the industries best interest to welcome everybody to the party. And they are heavily involved in marketing these as mountain bikes. Sort of blurring the traditional line between dirt bikes (motorcycles) and bicycles.

I think most public multi-use trails will keep the status quo as it is for now, and continue to regulate whether a particular vehicle has a motor intended for propelling itself or not.

Beyond that, like every other vehicle under the sun, everyone has to make the decision whether to acquire one for trail riding and the choice of whether to follow the rules on the trail in which they ride, or not. As long as they are a responsible human being and follow posted rules intended to protect every ones safety, access and sanity on the trail, I don't have a problem with them.

However, it doesn't make any sense to me for some to express anger at other trail or forum users for simply pointing out these rules, or the politics behind why these rules are in place.