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DG Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 438 Location: Matthews Joined: 03/01/16	Re: E-Bikes Reply #60 - 10/03/17 at 5:42pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 10/03/17 at 4:13pm: Same reason I dont ride carbon bikes anymore and dont run any carbon components. And I try to use "naturally" sourced lubricants, sealants, de-greasers etc. That and I am a stupid hippie who composts, buys local, recycles everything, and reuses as much as I can. RRR! Do the same stuff except from Carbon. The recycling culture here is really strange. In my neighbourhood there are people who I bet are scared to recycle as I never see the blue bin out. When we go to Italy they have a recycling system very strict, there are four different trash containers, plus they collect the non-recyclables in a see through plastic bag so that they can inspect that you have really recycled. They also have a composting collector....

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DG Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 438 Location: Matthews Joined: 03/01/16	Re: E-Bikes Reply #61 - 10/03/17 at 5:50pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 10/03/17 at 4:13pm: Same reason I dont ride carbon bikes anymore and dont run any carbon components. And I try to use "naturally" sourced lubricants, sealants, de-greasers etc. That and I am a stupid hippie who composts, buys local, recycles everything, and reuses as much as I can. RRR! Forgot to add... this to say that we should all be like you and have the good of planet in mind. I know it is not easy but we should all be a little bit more concearned. I prepare my weed killer with all natural stuff, it cost me a fortune but the round up is really bad for our health..

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JasonK Ex Member	Re: E-Bikes Reply #62 - 10/03/17 at 5:52pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 10/03/17 at 3:49pm: They already have "e-bikes" that can do that... Throttle down and send a roost a mile high! haha... Its funny how no one talks about the negative environmental costs of e-bikes. Those lithium batteries dont grow on trees... Hope this isnt a shock to all you Prius owners... Don't let me catch you out there night riding with some lightweight fancy battery attached to your head lamp. Kidding! Nothing wrong with being a good steward of the environment. I guess my perception of eBikes is that they are more Prius than Porsche.

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Banjopickin Big Ring Offline Spinnin' knees & Hittin' trees since '85 Posts: 1805 Location: Pisgah National Forest, USA Joined: 08/01/11	Re: E-Bikes Reply #63 - 10/03/17 at 6:15pm	Print Post
	Quote: Don't let me catch you out there night riding with some lightweight fancy battery attached to your head lamp. Guilty as charged... but I've been on the same re-chargeable Shart Light SL2K for like 6 years and its still awesome. I wish he still made those.... Does it make it better that I use it to ride to the bars and grocery store instead of driving? haha... Long story short ebikes suck. end of story.

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JasonK Ex Member	Re: E-Bikes Reply #64 - 10/03/17 at 6:20pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 10/03/17 at 6:15pm: Does it make it better that I use it to ride to the bars and grocery store instead of driving? haha... Only if you are drinking Hazy New England IPAs and you carry all your stuff in a messenger bag. About time to fire up the head lamps for me too. I usually can't get on a trail during the work week any sooner than 6:30pm.

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The Cycle Path IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline Treasurer '11 to '18. Trail Chair '12-'18, '20-'21 Posts: 11858 Location: Lake Norman Joined: 08/04/03	Re: E-Bikes Reply #65 - 10/04/17 at 11:51pm	Print Post
	Marlingreen wrote on 10/03/17 at 1:50pm: Saw one at Sherman Sunday evening around 5ish. Thought it was just a big DH bike but when it came by sure enough it was like a moped. Saw it at the lake loop. If he's not pedaling it and using a throttle then you can report them to P&R as a motorcycle, as far as I'm concerned. Defeats the entire purpose of pedal assist. That's where I draw the line.

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The Cycle Path IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline Treasurer '11 to '18. Trail Chair '12-'18, '20-'21 Posts: 11858 Location: Lake Norman Joined: 08/04/03	Re: E-Bikes Reply #66 - 10/04/17 at 11:55pm	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 10/03/17 at 4:13pm: True... there is waste and environmental costs generated from everything... but you can choose to spend your $$ on things that dont have such a large negative impact on the environment... Same reason I dont ride carbon bikes anymore and dont run any carbon components. And I try to use "naturally" sourced lubricants, sealants, de-greasers etc. That and I am a stupid hippie who composts, buys local, recycles everything, and reuses as much as I can. RRR! That's me but I still ride carbon. BTW if you own an iPad, iPhone or any mobile device and complain about L-ion batteries you really don't have much of an argument toe defend. Just sayin...

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Banjopickin Big Ring Offline Spinnin' knees & Hittin' trees since '85 Posts: 1805 Location: Pisgah National Forest, USA Joined: 08/01/11	Re: E-Bikes Reply #67 - 10/05/17 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	The Cycle Path wrote on 10/04/17 at 11:55pm: BTW if you own an iPad, iPhone or any mobile device and complain about L-ion batteries you really don't have much of an argument toe defend. Just sayin... True... I own an iphone and my bike light is Li battery. Neither is 100% necessary but its hard to not have a mobile phone now-a-days. Definitley not trying to be the pot calling the kettle black.... And I hope where I am lacking in the eco-friendly Li battery dept. with my phone is made up by my zealous recycling and diet of pine cones and humanely sourced granola. I guess when it comes to how we choose to spend money on the unnecessary things in life, being a little aware of the environmental impact is important.
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	(You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (Attachment deleted) Advocat wrote on 08/22/13 at 5:16pm: ...packin some Chub in the back of the pick-up. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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The Cycle Path IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline Treasurer '11 to '18. Trail Chair '12-'18, '20-'21 Posts: 11858 Location: Lake Norman Joined: 08/04/03	Re: E-Bikes Reply #68 - 10/07/17 at 1:14am	Print Post
	Banjopickin wrote on 10/05/17 at 12:21pm: True... I own an iphone and my bike light is Li battery. Neither is 100% necessary but its hard to not have a mobile phone now-a-days. Definitley not trying to be the pot calling the kettle black.... And I hope where I am lacking in the eco-friendly Li battery dept. with my phone is made up by my zealous recycling and diet of pine cones and humanely sourced granola. I guess when it comes to how we choose to spend money on the unnecessary things in life, being a little aware of the environmental impact is important. I recycle both at home and work. We recycle 3-4 more times material than we throw away at home and the shop. I even have someone pick up old metal to recycle. Raise chickens for eggs and meat. 36' x 36' garden. Huge compost pile. Massive blue bushes and fig trees. Hunting in the Fall. I'm right there with ya! Oh, and that sweet a** rainwater collection system I built!

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FredRubble Little Ring Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 509 Location: Mineral Springs Joined: 05/28/14	Re: E-Bikes Reply #69 - 10/07/17 at 5:17pm	Print Post
	I love free range granola....

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Enoch Forum Administrator IB Room Project Board In The Loop Offline Walked with God and he was not Posts: 8702 Joined: 05/08/04	Re: E-Bikes Reply #70 - 10/07/17 at 5:20pm	Print Post
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Yellowduck Big Ring Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 1537 Location: Concord Joined: 04/28/10	Re: E-Bikes Reply #71 - 10/08/17 at 3:23am	Print Post
	Enoch wrote on 10/07/17 at 5:20pm: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I'd say that pretty much sums it up.

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Impaler 58 Big Ring Offline Posts: 2111 Location: Statesville Joined: 01/21/09	Re: E-Bikes Reply #72 - 10/08/17 at 12:05pm	Print Post
	Enoch wrote on 10/07/17 at 5:20pm: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) So if you consider your body as the motor that propels your bike. Then that means bikes are not allowed. Because bikes are a vehicle.

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Cherokee Little Ring Offline Posts: 748 Location: Concord Joined: 08/07/06	Re: E-Bikes Reply #73 - 10/08/17 at 1:10pm	Print Post
	The Cycle Path wrote on 10/07/17 at 1:14am: I recycle both at home and work. We recycle 3-4 more times material than we throw away at home and the shop. I even have someone pick up old metal to recycle. Raise chickens for eggs and meat. 36' x 36' garden. Huge compost pile. Massive blue bushes and fig trees. Hunting in the Fall. I'm right there with ya! Oh, and that sweet a** rainwater collection system I built! But are the chickens free range and, more importantly, are they happy? Just kidding...I applaud everything you mentioned and do most of them myself. My family hasn't bought red meat since 1993 when I first got access to some private land to hunt. I've considered chickens but couldn't brings myself to kill an animal that I had raised.

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IntheBush Big Ring Offline Posts: 2031 Location: South of the border Joined: 10/30/09	Re: E-Bikes Reply #74 - 10/08/17 at 2:52pm	Print Post
	Impaler 58 wrote on 10/08/17 at 12:05pm: So if you consider your body as the motor that propels your bike. Then that means bikes are not allowed. Because bikes are a vehicle.

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The Cycle Path IB Room In The Loop Project Board Offline Treasurer '11 to '18. Trail Chair '12-'18, '20-'21 Posts: 11858 Location: Lake Norman Joined: 08/04/03	Re: E-Bikes Reply #75 - 10/09/17 at 1:35am	Print Post
	Cherokee wrote on 10/08/17 at 1:10pm: But are the chickens free range and, more importantly, are they happy? Just kidding...I applaud everything you mentioned and do most of them myself. My family hasn't bought red meat since 1993 when I first got access to some private land to hunt. I've considered chickens but couldn't brings myself to kill an animal that I had raised. It's definitely not something I take lightly. Was pretty difficult the first time I did it but I learned ethical ways to do it and keep reverence for their lives in mind. Same with ethically taking a deer. Circle of life.

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Enoch Forum Administrator IB Room Project Board In The Loop Offline Walked with God and he was not Posts: 8702 Joined: 05/08/04	Re: E-Bikes Reply #76 - 10/09/17 at 9:30am	Print Post
	Impaler 58 wrote on 10/08/17 at 12:05pm: So if you consider your body as the motor that propels your bike. Then that means bikes are not allowed. Because bikes are a vehicle. By Law, bikes are considered a vehicle, By Law, your body is not considered a motor.

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Impaler 58 Big Ring Offline Posts: 2111 Location: Statesville Joined: 01/21/09	Re: E-Bikes Reply #77 - 10/09/17 at 10:25am	Print Post
	But the powers that be, when the signs were put up. Most likely were referring to vehicles that were a danger to the trail and the trail users. Most Bike Paths , Greenways,And Rail Trails have similar signs. I think they were classifying motor vehicles as internal combustion engines. Motors on Motorcross bikes, ATV's, and such. I'm gonna start looking into how to get that classification changed

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Enoch Forum Administrator IB Room Project Board In The Loop Offline Walked with God and he was not Posts: 8702 Joined: 05/08/04	Re: E-Bikes Reply #78 - 10/09/17 at 11:55am	Print Post
	You should debate this with sign. Seems pretty clear to me

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IntheBush Big Ring Offline Posts: 2031 Location: South of the border Joined: 10/30/09	Re: E-Bikes Reply #79 - 10/09/17 at 2:01pm	Print Post
	This is Tony's e-bike. Code named - Stupidity. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Question, if these things are allowed on local area trails, who's going to be the e-bike police? And what's to stop somebody from modifying one to behave just like a dirt bike. With a bicycle you're limited to your own fitness and skill to power and propel the vehicle. With an e-bike, there will be no limit except your wallet.

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