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Reply #80 - 10/09/17 at 4:13pm
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IntheBush wrote on 10/09/17 at 2:01pm:
This is Tony's e-bike. Code named - Stupidity.  Smiley

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Question, if these things are allowed on local area trails, who's going to be the e-bike police?

And what's to stop somebody from modifying one to behave just like a dirt bike.

With a bicycle you're limited to your own fitness and skill to power and propel the vehicle. With an e-bike, there will be no limit except your wallet.



Slippery slope much.  That is quite a stretch really.  That bike has a hand throttle.

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Reply #81 - 10/09/17 at 6:21pm
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IntheBush wrote on 10/09/17 at 2:01pm:
This is Tony's e-bike. Code named - Stupidity.  Smiley

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Question, if these things are allowed on local area trails, who's going to be the e-bike police?

Call Vegeta if the bike's power level is over 9000.
  
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Reply #82 - 10/09/17 at 6:30pm
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ChosenOne wrote on 10/09/17 at 4:13pm:


Slippery slope much.  That is quite a stretch really.  That bike has a hand throttle.



Yeah, you're right. It's a slippery slope all right. 

Maybe you missed this part;

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... what's to stop somebody from modifying one to behave just like a dirt bike.


So, how you gonna know if it's got a hand throttle, or not? Whether it's a mod or it was purchased that way to begin with. 

Somebody going to be checking bikes at the door?

The big boys (Specialized, Trek) with their politically correct, peddle assist bikes from bike shops are going to have a very small part of this market.  

I suspect if you have one of these and you ride responsibly and with a little common sense, nobody will say a word. But you still need the sign to keep the DB's and the fakers out. And to offer some recourse if they don't get the message.  

The way it stands now, peddle assist e-bikes are allowed at Fishstix and Watcher said he didn't have a problem with them at this point. And I think the WWC is cool with them. So, what's the problem again?  Huh


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Reply #83 - 10/11/17 at 11:47am
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Impaler 58 wrote on 10/08/17 at 12:05pm:

So if you consider your body as the motor that propels your bike. Then that means bikes are not allowed. Because bikes are a vehicle.



Well, your body is about 60% water, so if it's going to be considered a motor, shouldn't it be considered a boat?  Therefore no more riding until you all have boating licenses.
  
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Reply #84 - 10/11/17 at 1:27pm
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Well, your body is about 60% water, so if it's going to be considered a motor, shouldn't it be considered a boat?  Therefore no more riding until you all have boating licenses.

Only need a boaters license if your 26 years young and under.  For the rest of us, no license is necessary to operate a boat.   

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Reply #85 - 10/11/17 at 3:13pm
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Back around 1989,1990. They closed this one rhiteous trail to mountain bikes. It was the horse people that were against it. It was labeled a horse trail at the time, and when mountain bikers started using it, it was so overgrown, the Trails were rutted. It seemed like nobody had taken care of the trail or rode a horse on it in years
After mountain bikers started showing the trail some tender loving care. The horse people started to cry. And since we didn't know much about mettings and such. It came as a surprise when they closed it to bikes. But we all rode it anyways, because back then. That's what we did. How dare someone sell us a mountain bike and then not have anywhere to ride the darn thing. So I believe most folks will do the same with their ebikes. Until the mean old mountain bikers start crying. Who wholda thunk it. But there are a few trails around that riders have deemed uncool and no longer ride. So after the mountain bikers get the ebikes kicked off the trail
I the cycle will start all over. There's a lot of climbs around that I have Never been alble to climb all the way. And haveing an ebike seems like it would be fun to make those climbs. I'm gonna be 60 in another 6 months. So the older I get, it doesn't seem like I will be able to get the fittness I need. So at Cyclofest I'll try a ebike to see what it's like to ride up a couple of those hills. And of course, there's always Moab. Now there's a place that riders don't flock to much anymore
  
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Reply #86 - 10/11/17 at 3:26pm
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btalley wrote on 10/11/17 at 1:27pm:

Only need a boaters license if your 26 years young and under.  For the rest of us, no license is necessary to operate a boat.  

Just ride whatcha like and be happy.


Any person born on or after January 1, 1988 must successfully complete a NASBLA approved boating education course before operating any vessel propelled by a motor of 10 HP or greater.

Funny how thats regulated but so many other things arent. Although anyone who has spent time on the water on Wylie or LKN can tell you its a f*&^%ing mad house out there. Way more dangerous than any highway...
  
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Reply #87 - 10/11/17 at 5:07pm
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Saw a dude on a tricked out Specialized E-bike at Dark Mountain a few weeks ago.  He was an older guy (maybe 60s) and a little on the plump side.

We kept seeing him all throughout our ride (we were stopping and marking a potential NICA race course out there) and it seemed like he was able to ride everything out there rather quickly.    It didn't bother me, not that that matters at all.

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Reply #88 - 10/11/17 at 7:49pm
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Banjopickin wrote on 10/11/17 at 3:26pm:


Any person born on or after January 1, 1988 must successfully complete a NASBLA approved boating education course before operating any vessel propelled by a motor of 10 HP or greater.

Funny how thats regulated but so many other things arent. Although anyone who has spent time on the water on Wylie or LKN can tell you its a f*&^%ing mad house out there. Way more dangerous than any highway...

You is right.  I forgot they changed it to 1988. You would think a boat guy would know this...
  
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Reply #89 - 10/11/17 at 8:30pm
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Reply #90 - 10/15/17 at 1:06am
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Impaler 58 wrote on 10/11/17 at 3:13pm:
I'm gonna be 60 in another 6 months. 


I'm a few years shy of 60.

You need an e-bike to climb a couple o' hills?  Grin


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Reply #91 - 10/15/17 at 1:13am
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TrillWill wrote on 10/11/17 at 5:07pm:
Saw a dude on a tricked out Specialized E-bike at Dark Mountain a few weeks ago.  He was an older guy (maybe 60s) and a little on the plump side.

We kept seeing him all throughout our ride (we were stopping and marking a potential NICA race course out there) and it seemed like he was able to ride everything out there rather quickly.    It didn't bother me, not that that matters at all.

Just saying, got nothing really to add. 


Here, I'll add something..

I test rode one..

It's better than steroids and without all the side effects.  Smiley

But it kills 80% of the fitness challenge. Sure makes you feel good about yourself though. 
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Reply #92 - 10/15/17 at 1:21am
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Test rode a pedal assist in the Sherman parking lot a few weeks ago when the Trek store was there.  I'm going to need one in about 10 years.  It sucks getting old (and plump)
  
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Reply #93 - 10/17/17 at 3:18pm
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So in all the mountain bike articles and forums I've been reading lately, it's hardcore to have a dropper post. In fact it seems like a lot of riders don't care what their running between their legs. As long as it's got a dropper post. So, I have seen a couple of ebikes with dropper posts. So now all you hardcores with legs made of iron, can ride the current ebikes with dropper post. The only comments you will receive, is how hardcore you are with your dropper post Cheesy Grin
  
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Reply #94 - 10/17/17 at 4:19pm
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Impaler 58 wrote on 10/17/17 at 3:18pm:
So in all the mountain bike articles and forums I've been reading lately, it's hardcore to have a dropper post. In fact it seems like a lot of riders don't care what their running between their legs. As long as it's got a dropper post. So, I have seen a couple of ebikes with dropper posts. So now all you hardcores with legs made of iron, can ride the current ebikes with dropper post. The only comments you will receive, is how hardcore you are with your dropper post Cheesy Grin


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Reply #95 - 10/17/17 at 5:44pm
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Dropper everything! A rider from my former college team

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Reply #96 - 10/17/17 at 7:39pm
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Dropper Posts are the way to go! Best upgrade ever.
  
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Reply #97 - 10/18/17 at 12:19am
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Yeah.. Dropper posts are cool.

...when your racing, or riding close to civilization.

But out in the back country it's just something else to go wrong and of dubious utility.

Mine sits on my work bench. Smiley

Heck, some frames now come with such radical geometry and bends in the frame that a standard 350mm seat post wont even fully insert into the seat tube, so a dropper post or dangerously short cut-off seat post is practically required if you want to lower it manually.

You know what irks me about this sport. As the years go by, the more it resembles Nascar.

It becomes less and less about the mountain, and more about the very things many of us seek to escape from in the first place.

Yeah I get it. Some call this progress. 

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Reply #98 - 10/18/17 at 3:08am
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IntheBush wrote on 10/18/17 at 12:19am:
Yeah.. Dropper posts are cool.
...when your racing, or riding close to civilization.

But out in the back country it's just something else to go wrong and of dubious utility.

Mine sits on my work bench. Smiley

Heck, some frames now come with such radical geometry and bends in the frame that a standard 350mm seat post wont even fully insert into the seat tube, so a dropper post or dangerously short cut-off seat post is practically required if you want to lower it manually.

You know what irks me about this sport. As the years go by, and more and more 'fans' get into it.. The more it resembles Nascar.

It becomes less and less about the mountain, and more about the very things many of us seek to escape from in the first place.

Yeah I get it. Some call this progress. 

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Doooode!  

So is Charmin Ranch considered back country?  Don't you ride a full squish 29er?  Why not ride a rigid 26er from the 80's to early 90's?  26" is less tar to have a problem with...

You is using ur droooper incorrectly if it's on your werk bench.  Try to reads those instructions a-gain...flip over to the engrish section.

So you is sayin you ryde in the back country?  Run toooobs? Don't use a drooooper?  You are the most badass ryder the THTB's have ever seen!  Do you even STRAVA brah?

I remember those bikes you speak so highly of...cantilever brakes w/ cables (brings back really bad memories), pedals with toe clips, grip shifts with crappie derailleurs....oh the front derailleur, 7 speed cassettes was kool, fixed seatpost (which later evolved into suspension seat post), twisty grips that didn't bolt to ya bars, bar ends were cool, no squishy bits (or suspension you would have been better off w/o suspension), 1.9" tars were considered phat AND toooobs in ya tars with crappy rims and terrible hubs with like 12 teeth on the freehub....Yea, lets go back to them days

You ride current bikes so might as well put some rides on the dropper and get use to using it.  You will like it and will likely never go back to a bike w/o one.  Go ahead and switch those tooobs out while your at it.  You will thank me later...seriously 

Today's bikes are incredible w/o the whole E-Bike discussion.  I see both sides...Ride what suits your needs.  True rippers wont be tearing up the trails on E-Bikes. 

NOW...Lets have a great discussion on how bad Carbone bikes are or LEAF BLOWING...
  
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Reply #99 - 10/18/17 at 10:26am
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