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Reply #20 - 08/06/18 at 10:40pm
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pearl wrote on 08/06/18 at 9:59pm:
Brushy on the mtb would be a good start. 
I’ve done full calendar of CX and 100 Mile NUE races, what works for me may not work for you. I can suggest getting as much saddle time on your mountain biking climbing as you can. The training stress is worth it.


Key Advice there in yellow... You can get plenty fit around here. The key is riding hard for the duration of the ride. That is why I suggested laps at RRT. There is no place that stresses me out like it does.
Over the years I see a lot of my riding pals go to the mtns and do great on the races up there, but rarely do the mtn people come down here and crush the locals. We decided it has something to do with holding ridiculously high heart rates down here and then having to excel even more when you hit a small hill. I may run a more constant rate in the mtns when I settle in on a climb but overall my heart rate is higher down here. It's all about getting used to the stress. To me,  long climbs are easy when compared to short steep ones
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Reply #21 - 08/06/18 at 11:05pm
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Enoch wrote on 08/06/18 at 10:40pm:


Key Advice there in yellow... You can get plenty fit around here. The key is riding hard for the duration of the ride. That is why I suggested laps at RRT. There is no place that stresses me out like it does.
Over the years I see a lot of my riding pals go to the mtns and do great on the races up there, but rarely do the mtn people come down here and crush the locals. We decided it has something to do with holding ridiculously high heart rates down here and then having to excel even more when you hit a small hill. I may run a more constant rate in the mtns when I settle in on a climb but overall my heart rate is higher down here. It's all about getting used to the stress. To me,  long climbs are easy when compared to short steep ones

I do agree with you that what we have around Charlotte is excellent for lowering the HR, what I found hard this year race (and I blame a poo preparation here in the USA) is the costant climb where you need to find the right pase, and if you are not used you burn out at the beginning and you feel your muscle with lactic acid too soon. That means two piece of wood instead of legs. My HR was perfect my legs were dead.
  
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Reply #22 - 08/07/18 at 12:14pm
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DG wrote on 08/06/18 at 11:05pm:

That means two piece of wood instead of legs. My HR was perfect my legs were dead.


Try squats once or twice a week.

And don't neglect stretching regularly.

  
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Reply #23 - 08/07/18 at 1:15pm
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IntheBush wrote on 08/07/18 at 12:14pm:


Try squats once or twice a week.

And don't neglect stretching regularly.




Great Idea
  
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Reply #24 - 08/07/18 at 4:27pm
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DG wrote on 08/07/18 at 1:15pm:


Great Idea


One other thing I can recommend if your insurance can handle it, especially if you plan to be competitive. And something that, at 57, I couldn't put off any longer.

Visit a physical therapist or sports medicine center.
Novant has a good one at the Arboretum (Providence and 51). And there's one in Huntersville.

They put you on the table and go through any range of motion issues with your joints, what you've been neglecting, etc.. Then they will tailor a program for to follow.. They're not miracle workers, don't prescribe magic pills, and they wont do it for you. But these folks know biomechanics, they work with a lot of college and pro athletes and can steer you in the right direction. They can keep small problems from turning into big ones.. It's a $50 co pay well spent.

I can recommend Hunter Peacock at Arboretum. Tell him a fellow mountain biker sent you.

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Reply #25 - 08/07/18 at 4:36pm
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IntheBush wrote on 08/07/18 at 4:27pm:


I can recommend Hunter Peacock at Arboretum. Tell him a fellow mountain biker sent you.

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I have BCBSNC Blue Local i can only go to Atrium and they have something similar but i visited the Novant and seems to be superior.
BTW i am not looking to become a pro as I am too old as well, i just like to chase other cyclist up gravel raoads and trails... I am just few years yunger than you. I did the medical exam in Italy for sport practice this summer and they do an excellent test already, but what you write about is a great idea. With age we loose funcionality. I will call Hunter and see whisch insurances he accepts.

  
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Reply #26 - 08/07/18 at 4:42pm
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I add another question, what do you drink and eat when you pedal for more than one hour. I have used some stuff called polase sport with magnesium potassium and other vitamins and as a booster i used Optinia short distance. What do you eat drink and when. One hour or less i just go with water more i mist start with supplements.
  
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Reply #27 - 08/07/18 at 5:14pm
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I'd look into spending some time lapping Curtis Creek.

I like UCAN SuperStarch myself. It's a slow burn.
  
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Reply #28 - 08/07/18 at 8:06pm
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Haven't dont a squat in the past 10 years of riding bicycles...

The only way to get faster and more fit is to ride your bike more. No secrets here. How many hours a week are you riding? 

The road allows for maximum time in the saddle as you do not spend hours driving to and from your place to ride. I'd rather MTB every day over the road bike, but even a local trail requires at least 45 minutes of extra time to commute to and from, get your gear ready loaded in the car, blah blah blah. 

Driving 2 hours to ride Pisgah one way is one thing, it's fun, awesome, etc. Doing it purposely because you want to get fit is a waste. instead, do 6 hours of riding on the road.

If you share your area where you live (generalization) maybe we can make a good safe road loop for ya.
  
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Reply #29 - 08/07/18 at 10:30pm
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pearl wrote on 08/07/18 at 8:06pm:
Haven't dont a squat in the past 10 years of riding bicycles...

The only way to get faster and more fit is to ride your bike more. No secrets here. How many hours a week are you riding? 

The road allows for maximum time in the saddle as you do not spend hours driving to and from your place to ride. I'd rather MTB every day over the road bike, but even a local trail requires at least 45 minutes of extra time to commute to and from, get your gear ready loaded in the car, blah blah blah. 

Driving 2 hours to ride Pisgah one way is one thing, it's fun, awesome, etc. Doing it purposely because you want to get fit is a waste. instead, do 6 hours of riding on the road.

If you share your area where you live (generalization) maybe we can make a good safe road loop for ya.


Squats are important even if you do not race. So when I prepared for the race I used to ride 6 hrs a week (two rides) and was trying to get climb at least at 6%, steady and long. This was true in the last month while in Italy. Here in Charlotte I did max 3-4 hrs a week with no slopes. I am in stalling area. I think that time is Paramount as you said but climbs as well. Trust me when I did my fist long 8% I was crushed.
  
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Reply #30 - 08/07/18 at 10:31pm
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Anyway who wants to come next year? I can host one person
  
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Reply #31 - 08/07/18 at 11:55pm
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DG wrote on 08/07/18 at 10:31pm:
Anyway who wants to come next year? I can host one person


I think Pearl's the perfect candidate..

To go over to the Alps and show them boys in Italy how it's done.  Cool

  
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Reply #32 - 08/08/18 at 12:30am
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IntheBush wrote on 08/07/18 at 11:55pm:


I think Pearl's the perfect candidate..

To go over to the Alps and show them boys in Italy how it's done.  Cool



He first needs to talk in Bergamasco  Grin
  
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Reply #33 - 08/08/18 at 12:35am
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Also consider that I do not want to win the race, I just do not want to arrive third to last.  Grin. Again
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Reply #34 - 08/08/18 at 1:27am
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You need to do more rides more often. They can be shorter. Need at least 5 rides a week. I could talk about this all day. 

I’d love to do this, if someone sponsor my flight and help my wife with the boys while I’m gone you got a deal Wink
  
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Reply #35 - 08/08/18 at 12:36pm
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What's that you say? 

Brushy Mountain Road is a road in Wilkesboro, NC.  It is a very hilly area, basically the foothills to the local mountains.  Check out this site.  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
There are some excellent mountain bike trails and excellent road riding routes in the area.
  
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Reply #36 - 08/08/18 at 12:38pm
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You could drive to Morrow Mountain park and grind up the road there a few times.  About an hour from Charlotte.  Or ride the 60 mile assault on morrow mountain road bike rides, they are once a month, March through September, in a group.  After you do it with the group and learn the route, you could repeat on your own or with a couple friends more frequently.

Check out weeklyrides.com
  
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Reply #37 - 08/08/18 at 1:53pm
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pearl wrote on 08/08/18 at 1:27am:
You need to do more rides more often. They can be shorter. Need at least 5 rides a week. I could talk about this all day. 

I’d love to do this, if someone sponsor my flight and help my wife with the boys while I’m gone you got a deal Wink


Ok will follow your lead work permitting. 

The club could sponsor you  Grin
  
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AMitchell47 wrote on 08/08/18 at 12:38pm:
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Check out weeklyrides.com


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Reply #39 - 08/08/18 at 3:12pm
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DG wrote on 08/08/18 at 1:53pm:
Ok will follow your lead work permitting.


Work? aint nobody got time for that!
  
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