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Do you ride in the coldest part of the winter?
10/08/18 at 11:19am
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More California noob questions:  Do you still MTB in coldest part of the winter?  If so, what are the trails like?  What extra gear do you wear to keep warm?
  
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Reply #1 - 10/08/18 at 1:45pm
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I MTB year-round.  Coldest ride was 37 degrees, which was too cold for me.  I'll wear shorts down to 55, with a sleeve tech-T under a long sleeve tech-T.  Below 55, I'll do a lightweight fleece/polypro top, and some Pearl Izumi - Ride Elite Thermal Leg Warmer ($50 at Amazon) with my bibs.  I've also got a beanie for my skull, and some insulated gloves for temps in the 40s.

We'll see a lot of days in Dec/Jan that get near/above 50 degrees.  If it stays dry, you'll have opportunities to ride.

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Reply #2 - 10/08/18 at 3:20pm
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I ride year round, night rides have gotten into the 20's before. By far the most important areas to keep warm are extremities.  Fingers and toes really have a way of freezing quickly due to the wind that hits them. I have a combo I've used for years that has worked and isn't too bulky.

Shoes, 2 pair Nike drifit socks, gore windStopper overshoes. The overshoes are the key to stop my toes freezing! This also makes it so I don't need summer and winter shoes.

Head is a fleece earcover head band. Tobogans get pretty bulky under helmet.

Hands, gore windstopper gloves. They stop wind.

Upper body, 1 or 2 layers of dryfit long sleeve hyperwarm shirts based on temp. A light windbreaker goes on top of this. This allows for breathability and warmth.

Lower body, 1 or 2 layers of drifit long hyperwarm leggings. I rarely ever need two even at freezing temps. Then normal padded shorts on top.

I reference drifit hyperwarm a lot just because that's what I use, and have found it is superior to under armour and others but there are a bunch of products very similar that could work. 

Nightriding in winter on trail is awesome, note that is only allowed at certain trails so make sure and check before you ride.
  
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Reply #3 - 10/08/18 at 3:57pm
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Seeing you're on here a lot now,  you'll read a lot about winter banter in a few months.
 
  You will also find your own 'tolerance' for cold.   42 degrees is my personal limit.  its about equipment/ protection + personal strength building. I get annoyed with all the extra 'coverage' for cold riding.. and end up avoiding it.  or you end up over covering = and get too hot + sweaty and wet = its a balance.

Other factors come into play = Freeze thaw,  Frost even freezes in the dirt= heaves the dirt loose = then thaws. creating mud.  The times to ride that period (Janurary thru early march) are to ride it while its still frozen! 


OH yea = another 'fall/winter banter is if trails should or should not have the leaves removed...   Get the blowers out! 
  
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Re: Do you ride in the coldest part of the winter?
Reply #4 - 10/08/18 at 5:16pm
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MTB4U wrote on 10/08/18 at 11:19am:
More California noob questions:  Do you still MTB in coldest part of the winter?  If so, what are the trails like?  What extra gear do you wear to keep warm?


I ride all year, more so in the colder months.

Trails are less crowded, less overgrown, less bugs and webs.

I wear merino wool as a base-layer and cycling tights.
  
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Reply #5 - 10/08/18 at 5:34pm
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I've never found "too cold" just need to get mentally prepared and dress for it. Once it gets under 30 its more for the adventure than just getting miles for me. Nightriding on frozen trails with with a bit of snow under a full moon is one of the most fun ways to ride trail in Charlotte. Frozen dirt also offers up crazy grip and speed, until you find actual ice... I did a ride at rocky branch last winter under 15 degrees, water bottle was frozen shut by the time we finished but the beer was great!
  
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Just think about how you will layer up to stay warm and dry.  Nothing more to it than that.  And you will find that you have to ride when it is at or near freezing at certain points in the winter because it's the only time when some trails aren't a sloppy mess.
  
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Reply #7 - 10/08/18 at 9:25pm
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Winter is the best time to ride!!!  Clears out the lungs and makes you want to work hard to stay warm.  Layers are the key, and it’s easy to overdress.

Best place to ride in the winter is Pisgah.  The place is all yours and you get great views you can’t see in the summer.
  
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Reply #8 - 10/09/18 at 12:40am
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I tried riding last winter, but it was -2 degrees, so I didn't ride too long. The driveway was covered with snow and every time I pedaled, my feet would go down into the snow. I decided to stick to skiing!! Then it's hot chocolate time!!
  
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Reply #9 - 10/09/18 at 1:09am
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I've ridden Catawba (before WWC) at 17 degrees.  Crazy good traction and had the place to myself.  I ride year round also and have found that a good wicking t-shirt with a standard jersey will take care of most days.  A light windbreaker type jacket over the top on colder days works for me.  Arm warmers and knee warmers are awesome and you can adjust on the ride.  Its very easy to over dress and then over heat.  Once I'm sweaty, I'm done.  I would rather start out a little cool, even slightly cold than to over dress and start sweating early.  Warm gloves are nice, but my hands will sweat in the gloves and all the insulating properties are gone.  Good wool socks with shoe/toe covers are the ticket for me.  Beanie with ear protection under the helmet is usually adequate but I do have a balaclava for the colder days.
  
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Re: Do you ride in the coldest part of the winter?
Reply #10 - 10/09/18 at 2:22am
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As long is its dry, it's cool.

Beyond that, freezing is about my cut off point. 
I don't like riding feeling like the Michelin man or encountering black ice on roots/rocks. Besides, you've got to have a place to put all those extra layers when it's time to peel.

Locally, a thin balaclava is helpful. As is a wind shell to go over a thin thermal layer on top. Plenty of cycling wind blocking pants on Amazon, etc.. Wool socks, etc.. Warm, windblocking gloves is another essential. 

In the back country or in the big mountains is of course a different animal and requires better/more preparation and ways to carry an extra layer or two.
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Reply #11 - 10/09/18 at 11:23am
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The worst thing about riding in the winter is getting ready in the parking lot and the first few minutes.  I freeze waiting on everyone to get ready and getting going but after the heart rate comes up, I'm usually fine.  Once the temp gets down below 30 or so I struggle to keep my toes warm though.
  
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Reply #12 - 10/09/18 at 1:37pm
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Yellowduck wrote on 10/09/18 at 11:23am:
The worst thing about riding in the winter is getting ready in the parking lot and the first few minutes.  I freeze waiting on everyone to get ready and getting going but after the heart rate comes up, I'm usually fine.  Once the temp gets down below 30 or so I struggle to keep my toes warm though.


Truth.

If you're comfortable in the parking lot when you're getting ready, you have too many layers on, and will be sweating hard once you're a mile in. I usually wear a good warm jacket while i'm getting everything ready and waiting on others to get ready, then take it off at the last minute before the ride. Another "pro tip" is to throw your gloves over the heat vent in your car while you're on your way to the trail to pre-heat them. Nothing worse than putting cold gloves on already cold fingers. 

The first mile or so is the worst part, once you get your heart rate up and muscles working you warm right up. I find that my fingers and toes stay cold until I take that first short break (1-2 miles in). Stopping the wind for a few minutes while allowing my body to circulate the blood will pull some of the heat from my core and warm up my extremities. Then i'm usually good to go for the rest of the ride.
  
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I have done rides down to 22 degrees and was comfortable once I finished the first climb.  High quality base light weight layers are a must.

A little bit of advise: Avoid large mountain creek crossings just in case you happen to go for an accidental swim.  If you do make sure its 6 miles from the car.
  
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btalley wrote on 10/09/18 at 3:08pm:
I have done rides down to 22 degrees and was comfortable once I finished the first climb.  High quality base light weight layers are a must.

A little bit of advise: Avoid large mountain creek crossings just in case you happen to go for an accidental swim.  If you do make sure its 6 miles from the car.


Yikes, sounds like something you have personal experience with. 
  
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I wear shorts until the temps drop below about 50 and then I have a pair of leg warmers that get put to use.  Below 40 the pants go on.  Agree with the base layer comments and toe warmers.  Night rides below 40 degrees are where it gets really challenging.
  
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Yikes, sounds like something you have personal experience with. 


He's just trying to sell you a boat..   Cool
You got a problem pulling a trailer on the back of your rig?
  
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MTB4U wrote on 10/09/18 at 5:37pm:


Yikes, sounds like something you have personal experience with. 

Yup, I'm very lucky that was a 6 mile climb back to the car.  There's heat on the climbs.

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He's just trying to sell you a boat..   Cool
You got a problem pulling a trailer on the back of your rig?

You sir have obviously not witnessed me selling a boat.   Please try not to derail this thread and stay on topic.   

The important question that nobody has asked is how much less time does Bush's Ebike 
battery last in cold weather?
  
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Reply #19 - 10/09/18 at 11:16pm
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Riding when it's in the 20's is good. You can go out with a pair of tights, long sleeve jersey, and a wind breaker, and be comfortable for your whole ride. In the 30's, you will be having to strip off layers. But when you stop, you freeze up fast. A few years back, there was a fat tire bike craze. But the majority of local trails close when there is snow.
  
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