You don't, and thats just plain and simple. The park is public and anyone can use it at any time when its open. I think everyone gets a bit to worked up over this and we should all just stop worrying about it. 

ciao
Santana

santana wrote on 01/01/19 at 12:19pm:


I admit I get worked up over it, but that's because I spend many, many hours doing trail work at Sherman and understand the damage that is done by people who ignore the conditions.  Unfortunately there are far too many people who don't care about the trail and those who work to maintain them.  Beatty is one of those particularly difficult trails due to the fact that it is a public park and impossible to close off access to the trails.

santana wrote on 01/01/19 at 12:19pm:



+ 1

dave mac wrote on 01/01/19 at 5:42pm:


3.3 miles with some short but decently pitched hills to climb.  I usually do 3 or 4 loops as hard and as fast as I can.  So my rides are usually 9+ to 12+ miles long.  Not super fun, but helps me get in shape and it's safer and less stressful than biking on the local roads. 

I agree - some people don't follow the same etiquette that most people on this forum do.  We know not to ride in this part of state when it is muddy and wet because of what it does to the trails.  Some people know, don't care and ride anyway; they are entitled douche rockets and no amount of signage will change that.  And then others honestly just don't know that they are doing something wrong.  I turned two people on to the sport this past year and both seemed surprised when they invited me on a ride after a hard rain and I informed them that the trails weren't open and the damage that would be done if we rode.  So I wouldn't get too worked up that some people are going to ride when they shouldn't.

Well Rather than complain about it I am doing something to help the trail(s) in my area be more ridable 
We've had alot of rain latly and the trail I ride most doesnt have any muddy trail rules 
But it does have several spots that hold water longer than ussual 
So I have  taking it upon myself to alleviate these puddles of the water rake the trail smooth and use a gravel mixed with a sand it packs really nice and it keeps the guys being able to ride on the trail 

This totally comes out of my pocket but it's either do that or don't ride or....
I could complain about it   


You're not gonna stop people from riding   



If you have a favorite trail go to the trail keepers and talk to him they will work with you 

I see no reason to complain about it ...
I know it's frustrating but it's not doing anybody any good 

MTB4U wrote on 01/02/19 at 2:33am:


Maybe but at the end of the day people will do what they want to do.  Notice how stop signs and red lights have become suggestions?

Unless we enclose trails behind a gate that can be locked, which is not practical given they are mostly all in public parks, people will ignore signs, or common sense and ride them in the mud.  I bet every one of us has done it at one point or another.

Santana said it best, it's not worth getting worked up over.

Frankly but the message that is coming out is let's do nothing about it. It is ok, it's a choice. But just to be clear we should never again try to give rules as we are the first one to expect and allow that these rules will not be followed.

In my experience, most riders will stay off of Fisher when it's really muddy if it's marked closed on the website.  Other than that, it's just a few people that don't know the rule and/or don't even know about the club. (Even though the website is posted on a sign at all of the club sponsored trails).   

Some of you may remember how worked up I used to get about it. Probably the worst anyone has ever seen! (This is Mark, BTW.)  Having designed, built and maintained Fisher Farm and Allison Farms since 2004, if the drains are properly maintained it doesn't really sustain that much damage.  Which we go back in the Spring and fix anyway to get ready for the NICA race. 

Life's too short to get worked up about it, honestly.

I believe in karma and that there is a purgatory of drain digging that must be passed through prior to arriving at any more desirable place in the end...