spiders and more spiders.

Give it one more shot, especially on a morning I want to ride there.  I think you were there on a super weird day.  No spiders there.   

I don't ride RRT very often but when I do I clear spiderwebs.

I would just clean up what is there. Several root balls have disrupted the trail on Stairway. Heavy Rain has washed a few other spots. A little touch up here and there is all it needs. It has always been demanding and that is fine, It just has worn harder the past couple of years. 

Your core group of riders will always ride it, I just dont think you can do much to make more palatable to the less experienced riders. It only appeals to people who want to accept a challenge, unlike the ones that just want a easy trail.

Go ride it    (Wink Wink) and you will have a more informed opinion

IF you want to make it more of a destination or improve rider numbers, build a jump line. Tons of the younger guys are VERY eager to have more jumpy places... Evan did a great job building (and marketing) with the new Cedar Valley, the BYT jump trails have some pretty good usage, Dixie River - once it has parking - will have a lot of pull. Youve got a lot of great elevation to work with... recruit Josh Krynok, Evan St Clair, or a few of the other guys well versed with jump lines... nothing like that in your area...

Aside from that, you have done an awesome job and i appreciate the trail and all the work youve put in... its about 30ish mins from my house, so on a weekend that I don't head to the mountains and want a good, hard ride... it could use some cleaning up of the washout/holes and such, but death valley and some of the other steep chutes are just an awesome addition and very different from anything else around charlotte...

If you want more people to be less intimidated,  try to get some of the local shops to sponsor a social/supported ride, or see if the club can host a cookout/ride to show people around and make it less "intimidating" for those that havent made it out there because of what theyve heard. Esp if they lead a group on the green loop...that might make people coming out knowing that there is a less intimidating option.

First off, yes I know I'm about to get blasted.
Second, I have never actually just ridden the green loop so not positive exactly what all it entails.


   To me if you want to make it more "approachable", take the green loop, nueter the mess out of it, open it up(not machine open but opener then it is) and make it the main loop. Make it 5-6ish miles.( I wanta think it 4 or so now but I really dont know. ) Make it pert near redundant to follow. ( neon arrows would be cool).  Then make all the other trails options.   

I personally think the loud group of not experienced riders scare people away from trying it and the smaller group of experienced riders don't spend as much time online. 

I constantly have to convince people to give it a try after they are almost scared away by others. The trail is great and its really not "that" hard. I'd hate to see you make it easier. 

I think what Jerry said is best. Clean up whats there some and we need to make RRT seem as awesome as it is and not let the loud people talk others out of it.

I saw some fill in today. THanks.

Most the people I go out there with for the first time say it's their favorite trail.  I do think "lack of riders" is partly because it's out of the way and but I think the majority of the difference is that out of the 700 riders at sherman, half of them probably have no idea about your trail, they more than likely found sherman on the county website as a place to bike.  I would think making a flow trail would double your number but the only thing I could see getting the number of riders sherman has is a jump trail.  That seems to be the new hotness and probably the most feasible for RRT's terrain.

It's too far for me to drive to ride after work so unfortunately I only get out there on the weekends.  I also can say it's one of the only trails around that I wish I would have brought my older bike with slightly more suspension when I road it on the 4th.

My son 13 year old trains here a lot.   From someone with IBS no porta Jon is a major reason we ride a Sherman.  A jump line would draw a lot the younger crowd and the trail has a reputation of a lot of climbing.  The fire road exit at Sherman helps a newb get into shape, 3 miles then 4 then 5 the exit helps. Don’t shoot me but advertise to the ebike crowd a welcome place to ride. Setup a way to pay via text and or a monthly donation, I have left change in the box!