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Reply #40 - 09/08/19 at 1:59pm
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ROrange Rider wrote on 09/08/19 at 9:54am:

Isn't he ruining it all for you. So are regular cyclist's going to start booby trapping trails for e-bikes. Yet another user group to add to the fold.


This has got to be one of most outrageous things I've ever seen posted on this forum..
And I've seen a few.

Cyclists have never been the ones that have booby trapped trails for other trail users.
Besides, how would such a criminal distinguish between various trail users?
  

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Reply #41 - 09/08/19 at 2:23pm
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I don't know if this will work, but I think I saw it on an old get smart episode. But use a huge strong magnet. To erase the power of the battery.😝The only real reason that I would see a need for an e-bike, would be at Pisgah. Some of those uphills are really long and would take a while to walk up. And it would seem riding a heavy bike downhill would be a blast.
  
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I think I'm gonna get me one of these here e-bikes, to ride the local and Western trails. I'm thinking it's a pretty good price compared to the e-bikes at the bike shop
  
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Reply #43 - 09/10/19 at 10:56am
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http//www.reviews.mtbr.com/understanding-e-bikes-in-downieville-and-the-lost-sierra

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meh, don't know how to copy links.  Oh   well
  
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808golden wrote on 09/10/19 at 10:56am:
http//www.reviews.mtbr.com/understanding-e-bikes-in-downieville-and-the-lost-sierra


In more than 300 miles of riding a wide range of trails on Class 1 e-bikes in different conditions, we discovered that although an e-bike has a motor attached, it is still human-powered and requires physical effort, as it will not move without pedaling input. But more importantly, we discovered this new form of recreation is just as low impact as a traditional mountain bike and has the ability to create many more advocates for trails and the protection of public lands.
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Reply #46 - 09/10/19 at 1:10pm
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Annnnd thank you!
  
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Reply #47 - 09/11/19 at 12:54am
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Not hard to see where this whole ebike thing is going..

Bigger batteries, faster bikes, and more crowded trails.

Whether these vehicles are allowed or not is up to property owners and administrators.. The trails in this area are not the Sierra Nevada's. There is no one size fits all solution.
You own the trail, you can do what you want. You don't? You have to consider the welfare of other trail users. Not just yourself. It's that simple.

I don't have a problem as long as they follow the rules and don't poach trails. As someone pointed out above, some are doing neither now. I fully expect that to continue.
Expect ramifications.

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...while the ‘CURRENT’ ebikes are ‘pedal assist’ and ‘limited to 20mph’, FUTURE ebikes won’t be. No way bigger more powerful batteries won’t be put on these bikes once the battery technology allows for it. (And that’s a never ending progression of more and more powerful batteries).

Do a youtube search for homemade e-bkes. You’ll find hundreds of examples of people doing over 60pmh. Do you think our park rangers have the free time to check to see which bikes have batteries, or what size battery? Of course not. After a couple of reports of people shooting down the train at 30-40mph, it’s all over. They will just ban all bikes.

Of course there are a couple of other issues. First off, 20mph doesn’t sound all that fast. But that’s road bike speeds. Road bike speeds on our trails, and not just on the downhills anymore. Now people will be going those speeds on the flats and up the hills. Yeah, I can just image a family of four shooting down the trail at 20mph (or more). Brilliant. 

Then there is errosion. I’ve demo’d an e-bike. I was railing berms gloing UP a hill. Yeah, there will be more wear and tear on the trails, especially once the bigger batteries show up. Finally, and almost as scary, is this notion that e-bikes are opening up new trails to users that otherwise weren’t able to access them (due to age or low fitness). I sure as hell hope the American’s with Disabilites crowd doesn’t read this article. That kind of talk will get them think ALL our trails need to be ADA accessbile. You know, to be fair.... 

Finally, as an avid rider. I’m glad ‘not everyone’ can get to every square inch of trail. I like, at least some, of my riding to be alone out in the great outdoors. I don’t need every ride to be so full of other bikers that it’s akin to searching for a parking space at the mall at Christmas…


  

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Reply #48 - 09/11/19 at 6:04pm
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ROrange Rider wrote on 09/10/19 at 12:52pm:

In more than 300 miles of riding a wide range of trails on Class 1 e-bikes in different conditions, we discovered that although an e-bike has a motor attached, it is still human-powered and requires physical effort, as it will not move without pedaling input. But more importantly, we discovered this new form of recreation is just as low impact as a traditional mountain bike and has the ability to create many more advocates for trails and the protection of public lands.
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I could care less about the study; ebikers saying, "forget the rules as long as I'm riding safely I can do whatever I want" stand a great chance of getting regular MTB access cut, kinda like littering - you think if MTBers constantly littered on the trail they would continue to let them have access?


As far as the dirt bike logic, I agree with bush.  They can just as easily say "well i'm riding at a responsible speed and being careful so I can break the rules". 

I'm so sick of all the ebike excuses, just ride your ebike where you are allowed and follow the rules and majority of people could care less.

  
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Reply #49 - 09/11/19 at 7:17pm
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sCvHeaVens wrote on 09/11/19 at 6:04pm:
...[the] majority of people could care less.



Nothing more true has ever been said about eBikes.

Ya'll are making mountains out of mole hills.
  

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Reply #50 - 09/12/19 at 5:13am
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Banjopickin wrote on 09/11/19 at 7:17pm:


Nothing more true has ever been said about eBikes.

Ya'll are making mountains out of mole hills.
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Reply #51 - 09/12/19 at 8:38am
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10t added to the cassette so you can bomb down faster on the downhill and flats Cheesy
  
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Reply #52 - 09/13/19 at 6:00am
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This entire site should be brought down.  Just a bunch of old f*&^%s, that includes me, complaining


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Reply #53 - 09/20/19 at 12:59am
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https://youtu.be/VtaLfeQ-YO0
  
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Reply #55 - 09/20/19 at 2:08am
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Leaf Blowing & E-Bikes will be the death of our sport
  

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Reply #56 - 09/20/19 at 1:57pm
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I do so love the fall discussions....maybe the E-bike powered blowers are the answer.
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btalley wrote on 09/20/19 at 2:08am:
Leaf Blowing & E-Bikes will be the death of our sport

Did someone say leaf blowing e-bikes?
  
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Reply #58 - 09/20/19 at 2:16pm
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btalley wrote on 09/20/19 at 2:08am:
Leaf Blowing & E-Bikes will be the death of our sport


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Reply #59 - 09/21/19 at 1:16am
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Slothzilla wrote on 09/20/19 at 1:59pm:

Did someone say leaf blowing e-bikes?


That's a great idea.  Grin 

How about this new technology..

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Geez...
The way things appear to be going, I guess this was sort of predictable..

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"Hey, Grandpa.. What'd y'all do in the old days..
Haha ha"


"Didn't need no motor and we made sure we didn't land on our heads, young feller."  Wink
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