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Should B Faster Coaster Bike Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 113 Joined: 07/12/10	Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? 09/21/15 at 3:37pm	Print Post
	I don’t pay that much attention to lap times anymore. I try to let the bike do most of the work and pay attention to form, flow and efficiency. I got a new Turner CZAR in July and been able to get 30-40 miles per week on the trails. Most of my time is at Rocky River/BYT/WWC and Western NC. I went to Sherman on Sunday. It was not crowded so I decided to check out my lap time. It’s been about 2 years since I recorded my personal best at Sherman and I was pleased that I set a new personal best. By a good bit! I wasn't even trying as hard as I could. I get to Ride Sherman a bunch…..24+ times a year…..I thought I just about had it memorized. Did we lose a bit of the trail or am I that much faster? What’s the actual mileage? I've got to Plug Dave Turner and his CZAR! This bike has a soul! I'm just along for the ride!

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renoirbud Small Cog Offline Newbie Posts: 442 Location: China Grove Joined: 12/12/06	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #1 - 09/21/15 at 4:58pm	Print Post
	The Czar eats miles. Random note, I think I saw a Black Czar on a BMW at the WWC on Sunday. Maybe I shouldn't sell my Czar, LOL. (On a Burner now)

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Yellowduck Big Ring Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 1537 Location: Concord Joined: 04/28/10	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #2 - 09/21/15 at 7:13pm	Print Post
	I think it is the same distance it has been for the last couple of years.

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Specialist Little Ring Offline The rider formerly known as "Trekker1" Posts: 694 Location: Charlotte Joined: 05/11/12	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #3 - 09/21/15 at 11:43pm	Print Post
	All in I get 11.4 miles, give or take.

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DK Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 348 Joined: 11/21/14	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #4 - 09/21/15 at 11:47pm	Print Post
	Me and my buddy both record 11.5 for all three loops at Sherman. Out of curiosity what was your time?

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Should B Faster Coaster Bike Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 113 Joined: 07/12/10	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #5 - 09/22/15 at 12:34pm	Print Post
	58:44......My riding buddy finished in under 57 minutes. Really HATE him! I take a peak at my time time when I pass the silo after the RC loop. 13:40. And the Dam on the lake loop. 39:10. I was not really pushing too hard but decided I had a chance to finish sub 58 so I hammered pretty hard about the last 2 miles. Didn't make it. I used to pay attention to lap times every ride.....now I'm fatter and older so I tell myself they are not as important as flow, efficiency and fun. Interesting.....I started to enjoy the ride a little more....Ride more often.....skills improved.....Got Faster........Oh and the CZAR helps!

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sager Big Ring Offline Waiting for my next ride! Posts: 1343 Location: Charlotte Joined: 11/02/08	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #6 - 09/22/15 at 12:50pm	Print Post
	It's fast right now because it's so dry.

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Joe F Coaster Bike Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 75 Location: Concord, NC Joined: 10/10/11	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #7 - 09/22/15 at 12:53pm	Print Post
	DK wrote on 09/21/15 at 11:47pm: Me and my buddy both record 11.5 for all three loops at Sherman..... Note the absence of any bragging about OUR times.

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DK Small Cog Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 348 Joined: 11/21/14	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #8 - 09/22/15 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	Under an hour is a speed I can't imagine at this point. Best I've ever done it was 1:11 and that was plenty fast for me. Joe F and I are primarily just trying to get to the finish without having to be wheeled out of there on a stretcher. You fast guys are impressive with those sub-60 minute times.

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collin_i Little Ring Offline Posts: 632 Location: somwhere in my head Joined: 03/29/09	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #9 - 09/22/15 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	Should B Faster wrote on 09/22/15 at 12:34pm: ......Oh and the CZAR helps! It's all in the DW Link! <that's my theory, been a DW fanboy for @ 5-6 years now> I think the new line above the rocks, on the main trail has improved times a little. Otherwise I'd say it's the same.

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Enoch Forum Administrator IB Room Project Board In The Loop Offline Walked with God and he was not Posts: 8702 Joined: 05/08/04	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #10 - 09/22/15 at 2:03pm	Print Post
	collin_i wrote on 09/22/15 at 1:49pm: It's all in the DW Link! <that's my theory, been a DW fanboy for @ 5-6 years now> I think the new line above the rocks, on the main trail has improved times a little. Otherwise I'd say it's the same. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm impressed with the fact this guy made it in under a hour. Nice work Collin

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MTBman1127 Small Cog Offline Work Ride Drink Beer Posts: 469 Location: Concord Joined: 12/02/13	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #11 - 09/22/15 at 2:37pm	Print Post
	collin_i wrote on 09/22/15 at 1:49pm: It's all in the DW Link! <that's my theory, been a DW fanboy for @ 5-6 years now> I think the new line above the rocks, on the main trail has improved times a little. Otherwise I'd say it's the same. I still take the old line but you can tell it's not ridden much anymore. Sunday was a drift fest out there got fun and loose a few times.

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collin_i Little Ring Offline Posts: 632 Location: somwhere in my head Joined: 03/29/09	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #12 - 09/22/15 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	Enoch wrote on 09/22/15 at 2:03pm: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm impressed with the fact this guy made it in under a hour. Nice work Collin Thanks Jerry! It really helps to have a good leader out there. By proxy, a lot of your experience was passed down. Perfect lines aside, I think the biggest factor in a fast lap is fitness. I guess that's obvious, but an improvement in fitness really comes out there (for me).

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MTBman1127 Small Cog Offline Work Ride Drink Beer Posts: 469 Location: Concord Joined: 12/02/13	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #13 - 09/22/15 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	I generally just like trying to hit all the corners with as much speed as possible or no brakes at all

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Rockys Smarter Brother Newbie Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 34 Location: Troutman Joined: 07/25/14	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #14 - 09/22/15 at 6:35pm	Print Post
	I've rode Sherman a handful of times including today (the little moisture helped) but can someone tell me what the "short cut" is shortly before the Lake Loop?

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Yellowduck Big Ring Offline Work Ride Tarheel Trailblazers Posts: 1537 Location: Concord Joined: 04/28/10	Re: Did Sherman get Shorter or is my Czar faster? Reply #15 - 09/22/15 at 7:15pm	Print Post
	Rockys Smarter Brother wrote on 09/22/15 at 6:35pm: I've rode Sherman a handful of times including today (the little moisture helped) but can someone tell me what the "short cut" is shortly before the Lake Loop? It is a little connector trail that connects the main loop back to itself somewhere around half way between the lake loop and the exit.

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