Zoic. Good price and you can get them with or without a liner.

Board shorts / swimming trunks work great as they dry fast if you get sweaty (without liner of course).  I started with baggies with liners ( (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)).

I found the liners to suck and not fit correctly (I'm a bigger guy and they were too loose in the waist but way to tight on the bottom of the legs) but am very please with the outer shorts as they are both stretchy and quick drying.  I now wear bibs under them for comfort if I want to wear baggies.  Walmart carries a very similar type of short with draw strings vs a button for like $8, once again I like the "swimming trunk" type material over the polyester wick type material.  I like these too its just that sometimes the draw string finds itself back in the hole for the drawstring during a wash which is a PITA.

I've worn columbia water shorts for years, with the mesh liner.  I've got some zoic mtb shorts but on my legs they are too constricting.  In the winter they feel ok, the material is thick so they trap heat.   The only time I've had issues with the columbias is when I've gone swimming mid-ride (dupont).  They trap moisture and cause problems if you've got several miles to go.

FireAnthem wrote on 05/16/17 at 6:40pm:


Absolutely yes...

Baggies are cool, but they always seem to snag the nose of my saddle. And always at the inopertune times

Impaler 58 wrote on 05/17/17 at 12:57pm:



To me .. baggies that do this = are too loose or are too breezy too free..   tighten up the shorts game 

For myself =under 10 planned miles = no chamois.. Longer day + 8-10 miles or more full chamois. 

a specific bike short will be taylored better for their purpose vs a gym short...   

Zoic  = YES. 
Cannondale Shorts = YES
Fox = YEs

I live by  you get what you pay for.

JEDDUH01 wrote on 05/17/17 at 2:00pm:

I have long worn your common spandex padded riding shorts underneath lightweight shorts.  I pretty sure the padding is silicone.  My current favorites for the top shorts were bought last Summer/Fall at Costco for ~$14, and I picked up several pair in a few colors.  I wear the shorts in every day use and don't only have them for riding.  They look nice and have held up well.  They are great for yardwork since they are much cooler than a heavier cargo, my other favorite type.  In fact, I am wearing a pair now and have been mowing.  Don't you feel great knowing this?

These have become my go to shorts (commuter, pisgah, wilson, local, barhopping). No extra material to flap around but still has room to move, durable, comfortable, fashionable. I wear my bibs under them and only time i do not wear the shorts is when racing and i am bibs only. I wear shorts because i am always catching my bibs and ripping the butt on the seat or catching briars and ruined too many bibs to unauthorized access holes. No issues with these shorts at all and they are well worth the extra coin without making you look like an enduro freestyle dirtbag. 

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Jon Snow wrote on 05/26/17 at 2:47am:

When you get old, and gravity takes ahold of yer boys, You need the extra support of Lycra. Was just thinking if I had a dropper post, that would be painful