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06/20/17 at 12:45pm
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ok fellas, question for you. I recently traded in my older SuperSix for a new model(in the same size, and near identical geometry), and set all of my measurements on the bike as closely as possible to the previous bike that I had been riding. Now I am starting to get the tingly hands going on, mainly in my right one worse than the left if that matters.

I have looked around, and gather that if you are getting numb hands "reach" is usually the culprit. So does that mean bar height or distance from the saddle, or can it be a combination? I have maybe 1 extra spacer under the stem compared to the old bike, so should I take that spacer out and see if the lower bars help with the numbness?
  
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Reply #1 - 06/20/17 at 12:50pm
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FireAnthem wrote on 06/20/17 at 12:45pm:
ok fellas, question for you. I recently traded in my older SuperSix for a new model(in the same size, and near identical geometry), and set all of my measurements on the bike as closely as possible to the previous bike that I had been riding. Now I am starting to get the tingly hands going on, mainly in my right one worse than the left if that matters.

I have looked around, and gather that if you are getting numb hands "reach" is usually the culprit. So does that mean bar height or distance from the saddle, or can it be a combination? I have maybe 1 extra spacer under the stem compared to the old bike, so should I take that spacer out and see if the lower bars help with the numbness?


combo; you're more than likely putting too much weight on your hands; could be from saddle tilt, reach to bars; or bars are low compared to seat, I wouldn't think a higher bar would cause tingling (unless your seat is also higher so in relation the bars are lower) but there have been more shocking things that have helped my friends.  For me it was needing the bars to be higher (this was a MTB issue).  Could also be the width of the new bars; is there any difference?

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Reply #2 - 06/20/17 at 1:00pm
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I had a combination of issues that I figured out over time.  Saddle tilt was the biggest issue and the second was I actually needed to lower my bars (less spacers under stem).  The biggest thing after getting my saddle and bars right was building my core.  It's still not awesome, but I've realized the more I use my stomach muscles to hold myself up and less weight on my hands the better my arms feel.  It was tough at first though as I did not have a very strong core.
  
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flynbryan19 wrote on 06/20/17 at 1:00pm:
I had a combination of issues that I figured out over time.  Saddle tilt was the biggest issue and the second was I actually needed to lower my bars (less spacers under stem).  The biggest thing after getting my saddle and bars right was building my core.  It's still not awesome, but I've realized the more I use my stomach muscles to hold myself up and less weight on my hands the better my arms feel.  It was tough at first though as I did not have a very strong core.


I've noticed that as well, and have been working on my core and using those muscles more. I think that I may need to lower the bars a spacer and just see if that works for me. 

I have the seat leveled to the same degree that it was on the last bike, so I don't see too much of an issue there.
  
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FireAnthem wrote on 06/20/17 at 1:05pm:


I've noticed that as well, and have been working on my core and using those muscles more. I think that I may need to lower the bars a spacer and just see if that works for me. 

I have the seat leveled to the same degree that it was on the last bike, so I don't see too much of an issue there.


Same exact saddle?  You'd be surprised how small of changes can add up when you sit in the same position for extended lengths of time.
  
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flynbryan19 wrote on 06/20/17 at 2:01pm:


Same exact saddle?  You'd be surprised how small of changes can add up when you sit in the same position for extended lengths of time.


Yes sir, literally the same saddle. Picked it off the old bike and moved it over, would be worth throwing a level on it to confirm it hasn't shifted though.
  
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Reply #7 - 06/20/17 at 7:43pm
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If I lock my elbows my hands will go numb. If I bend my elbows a little it forces me to use my core to hold myself up, thus relieving some of the pressure on my hands
  
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Reply #8 - 06/20/17 at 8:09pm
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I had an issue with tingly hands, my stem had too much rise. Don't know if it makes a difference though. Because all I see now on mountain bikes, is short stems with 0 degree rise
  
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Reply #9 - 06/21/17 at 12:33pm
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Impaler 58 wrote on 06/20/17 at 8:09pm:
I had an issue with tingly hands, my stem had too much rise.


I was curious about this as well. My previous bike had a near zero rise stem on it, and this stem has a pretty good rise to it. Will be looking to swap out these alum. bars/stem and post anyway as I prefer carbon.
  
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Reply #10 - 06/21/17 at 3:51pm
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Since you said super six, I'm assuming you are referring to a new road bike similar to the old one. Are the handle bars the same?  What about the position of the levers/hoods on the bars?  I assume you spend most of the time with your hands on the hoods. 

Any difference using gloves or not?  I have found that tight fitting gloves are not friendly on a long ride. More food for thought.
  
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Reply #11 - 06/22/17 at 12:45am
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the problem is "almost identical geometry" and "as close as possible" is that your hand position can be off just a little bit and could be a world of difference.

you can keep doing the trial and error thing, but the best solution is to goto someone that can do an amazing bike fit and just get it done. it may seem like a lot of money, but in the end it is completely worth it to be 100% comfortable on your road bike.

i cant point you into the direction of a good bike fitter in this area... some people may have tons of technology to rely on a great fit, some people use old school methods. look for a recommendation and do it!
  
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mountainbiker90 wrote on 06/21/17 at 3:51pm:
Since you said super six, I'm assuming you are referring to a new road bike similar to the old one. Are the handle bars the same?  What about the position of the levers/hoods on the bars?  I assume you spend most of the time with your hands on the hoods. 

Any difference using gloves or not?  I have found that tight fitting gloves are not friendly on a long ride. More food for thought.


Handlebars are a different brand, but same width as far as I can tell from measuring them. I think one issue may be that I have ridden SRAM for years but this bike came with an Ultegra build, the shape of the hood itself may be whats giving me grief.

As far as gloves, I don't wear any unless its cold enough in the winter to need them.
  
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pearl wrote on 06/22/17 at 12:45am:
the problem is "almost identical geometry" and "as close as possible" is that your hand position can be off just a little bit and could be a world of difference.

you can keep doing the trial and error thing, but the best solution is to goto someone that can do an amazing bike fit and just get it done. it may seem like a lot of money, but in the end it is completely worth it to be 100% comfortable on your road bike.

i cant point you into the direction of a good bike fitter in this area... some people may have tons of technology to rely on a great fit, some people use old school methods. look for a recommendation and do it!


I agree about the fit, I was fitted to my old SuperSix by the good fellows at BicycleSport. I have also been fitted in the past at The Right Gear up in Concord, and can highly recommend him as well(cant remember his name for the life of me). Totally different experiences, one old-school approach with hand tools and measurements, and the other a newer "fit-bike" electronic fitment. 

If I keep having issues, I will go back and get fitted again as I plan to ride as much as I can this year. Ive really missed being out on the road.
  
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Chris at uptown cycles does a computer aided bike fitting process. It isn't cheap but it addresses everything and is quite amazing
  
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Reply #15 - 06/23/17 at 11:48am
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I totally forgot about this... I wish I would have taken a look yesterday.  Next time you see make remind me and I'll see if I can make some recommendations.

FWIW yesterday I made a slight downward tilt on my bike as I just got it and it was enough to make a world of difference in my hands and even saddle pain.  Small adjustments can change things drastically.
  
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sCvHeaVens wrote on 06/23/17 at 11:48am:
I totally forgot about this... I wish I would have taken a look yesterday.  Next time you see make remind me and I'll see if I can make some recommendations.

FWIW yesterday I made a slight downward tilt on my bike as I just got it and it was enough to make a world of difference in my hands and even saddle pain.  Small adjustments can change things drastically.


Sure thing man, downward tilt on the bars you mean? I feel like my reach is ok, but my hands keep sliding forward on the hoods, so I may try to angle them upward just a tad. They look relatively level, but some people prefer to run their Shimano hoods a little angled because of the shape of them. With only a couple rides on the new bike im getting it dialed in, slowly but surely. Great ride last night btw man, you were killin it!
  
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Reply #18 - 06/29/17 at 12:21pm
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Update for anybody thats interested, I lowered the bars nearly an inch by taking spacers from under the stem and moving them to the top. Also angled the hoods upward from where they were just a tiny bit, since I felt like my hands were sliding forward while riding. 

Much more bueno, even though common sense says dropping the stem would put more pressure on the hands. I think the bars being higher may have been putting a small angle in my wrist that it just didn't like, and over time it was restricting and causing the numbness.
  
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