Part of it could be the way question 9 was built. "Mountain bike optimized" is a close number 2, but those could certainly be machine or hand built. #9 only allowed one response. 

Look at questions 7,8 and 10 for more of the picture. Especially question 10. People are not saying they don't want smooth or flowy trails.

Oskie I bet I could tell the difference between the two. I have worked on both hand built and machine cut. I like both but to me machine built gets boring and you don't have to think much. It's usually as wide as the machine that cut it and sometimes as smooth as a baby's a$$. I also get tired of real singletrack as it becomes neutered down by other riders and walkers over time and can get boring if you ride it enough. But it still gets you to think and react. It also has soul and thought. Go up to snowshoe and ride skyline 10 times and some of the other trails up that way and it will get old fast. Both types of trails have their place and I am fond of both. I also like Hickory city park it may be machine cut but it has character and is a challlenge. I know not everyone will EVER be happy with what we have in the area. What is going on up at Allison farm is going to be fun and thanks to Evan and crew! I'm glad to see both types of trail at Fisher and both types working together at Balllantyne on the advanced loop. Both types of trail have a place in our area and I hope more share the same place such as Dixie River. I know I'm old and build crappy no flow singletrack but you can find the flow. You just have to look and work a little harder for it. I'm looking forward to both types in our area to keep everyone happy! I have also been helping up on some property in the mountains that have both machine cut and hand cut trail. The owners have now opted to hand cut the rest of it so it looks more natural. Yes it will take a hell of a lot longer but will leave less scaring of the property. Can't wait to go back up and get to narrow hand benching 4 to 5 miles. Great property and great people to help! I'm just really glad we have such diverse trails in the Charlotte area because most don't and we are very spoiled by the relationship we have with our parks and rec department. If you only knew what it was like around here in 1986 to 1990. The club has come a long long way. Thanks to all that have gotten it this far and to those who have chosen to take it further!!!! Well that's my 1 cent soap box speech.

Mark it’s about time for that video of you riding a donut over some logs.

The questions needed some tweaking, but I don’t want to be a complainer.  The data from Q9 and Q10 is contradicting. I agree with the Q9- Q12 commentary.  The majority of riders enjoy machine built trail now. But overall, I interpret the whole of the data as saying, I want well maintained flowing trail with varying levels of difficulty and mantained natural features.  And well over 50% felt that they had enough trail, and trail diversity near them.  Oh, and a big reenforcement that there are still many lazy riders out there.....who are also cheap.

Wears my bike wrote on 02/21/19 at 2:48pm:



DG wrote on 02/14/19 at 3:46pm:



I also believe "I'm too lazy" is the easy way out.  I also believe the majority of current long term members don't want to hear some of the real reasoning.

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Lay it out there!  We're listening, and can't make progress unless folks speak up. 

The whole reason I joined the board 3 years ago is that I thought we could take our local mountain biking organization and scene to the next level.  The folks on the board will be the first to admit we have a long way to go.  That's why we spend 5-20hrs (sometimes more  ) a week of our "spare time" behind the scenes working to advance our organization and mountain biking in our region.

Greg E wrote on 02/22/19 at 8:07pm:


Speaking of a skills park did I see at springs they were starting to make one by stumpy pond?

SirNotAppearing wrote on 02/22/19 at 2:13am:



I'll PM you, been down that road before