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12/09/19 at 1:14pm
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Dates are posted, but also Short Track. (And Renni) has new trail! I think this will finally balance out the MTB vs Gravel Hammer Fest. It’s roughed in at this point with the bridge connectors complete. It’s not the final product but is rideable. I plan on completing handwork over the next few weeks to smooth it out and we will be completing a work day to weatherize it the first weekend in January to ensure the top surface has 3-weeks to bed in before racing starts. At this point, please ride it and pack in the surface and start identifying areas that need to hand attention, drains and converts. It add a whole new trail climb and extends one of the downhills but does not otherwise loss any trail. Also, the drop line has been reworked to smooth it and choke down some traffic. 

And if you complain about adding more trail for a mountain bike race....there is a special place for you. 

Also, if you are afraid of parking at Renni Park, feel free to park at the adjacent City Park Development where we have a third official trail head. From that trail head we will be connecting more new trails soon. 

So again please go ride and bed the trail and send me a DM on the parts which need to most attention and work to keep racing consistent with the Short Track Brand. I know I have a lot of work to make it so, but I like challenges.
  

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Reply #1 - 12/09/19 at 3:26pm
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Thank you, sir!

Is the short track trail, along with the additional newness, self-evident?
  

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yeap. When you get to the bottom of the 2019 trail and head back uphill for the first time the old trail crosses a bridge. The bridge is still there but new short track turns left and continues back up the hill. There is a new extended downhill section which joins back to 2019 short track just above the bridge. If you ride, know that i know it still needs a lot of work.
  

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Appreciate all the hard work out there!  We will have an Excite Bikes ride there this coming Sunday at 2pm (weather permitting) to get the first-timers acquainted with the track.  Heck, that might be all of us from what it sounds like.  I'll post back up here after next weekend.
  

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where is the city park trailhead?
  
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it is off Speer Blvd., near the intersection of Zilker Park Dr.  a gravel path drops off Speer to enter Renni
  

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If anyone wants pictures and sadness...a semi accurate recap

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gonzo wrote on 12/09/19 at 7:32pm:
it is off Speer Blvd., near the intersection of Zilker Park Dr.  a gravel path drops off Speer to enter Renni



Thanks Greg - anyone who looks up the map there are two Zilker Park Drs essentially; really weird how/why they did that.

  
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Sorry - where are the dates posted?
  
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Skid Boot wrote on 12/10/19 at 7:57pm:
Sorry - where are the dates posted?


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crap, I need to start riding again
  

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pearl wrote on 12/11/19 at 3:45am:
crap, I need to start riding again


No. 

No, you don't.
  

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Pearl, you’re still a youth. You can race yourself into shape.
  

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is it “youth”, or “yute”
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Thought about young-un for the NC natives. Both pearl and I are transplants from the garden state. 

We rode the short track on Sunday but not the new section. It was very soft. Saw Neal out there and he was not wanting to add more length to the trail in order to keep lap times lower to keep the schedule in check.
  

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Reply #15 - 12/17/19 at 4:31pm
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Is the race based on time or laps? The rules are unclear.
  
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Reply #16 - 12/17/19 at 5:30pm
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The National level short track races I've announced have been based on time + number of laps.

Example from Collegiate National Champs:  "Race duration is 20 minutes + 3 laps"

So a slightly longer lap would add a little time to each race, but not much.  If the lap is longer now could always do something like 20 minutes + 2 laps.
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SirNotAppearing wrote on 12/17/19 at 4:31pm:
Is the race based on time or laps? The rules are unclear.



In the past, it's been entirely time based.  We've done fewer laps when the conditions were nasty.  It was always unknown at the start how many laps we'd do, although when things are nice like last year, lap counts were almost bankable.
  

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Reply #18 - 12/23/19 at 8:42pm
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The lap distance needs to come out at about a mile.  It works better for pacing. Yes you can adjust the time of the race but when you have a longer track, the kids lap times will throw the schedule off in a big way.  It is a very long day and if a person shows up for a later race and finds out the schedule is 30 min behind they may leave.  Please do not mess with the timing of the race.  This is one of the last mtn bike races in this area and has worked for a very long time.  Please do not mess with the distance, it works.
  
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Which distance? Last year, year before, year before that, 4,5 or even eight years ago? The distance has been tweaked almost every year for the past 8 years going back to the last time it ran through the field I believe 6 years ago. In fact the total distance now is still less than it was the last time it ran into the field. 

My main goal has been to add interest and variation every year for an element of freshness and prevent the race and racing from going stale. This year there is only 816’ of new trail (so 15ish% increase). 400’ of it using old sections of short track which haven’t been used in 10 or so years. But it probably won’t get used given the new stuff probably won’t be bedded in in time anyway. 

Personally, I think a lot of races are fading due to complacency and thinking what worked last year will work this year. It is and has been such a great series by Neal and it’s most local riders first entrance into racing. So the main goal is to always keep in mind what has made it such a great series, a fast, fun, simple run in all conditions course. I simply look to add elements that keep it fresh and interesting to racers, add new elements like the Al line B line, all while respecting what has made it fun.
  

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The racing seems to be the best when the course is very simple and passing is relatively easy.  The roadies should be complaining that it's a little too technical and the MTBers should be complaining about it's too "paved".  Just my opinion of course, but it's a lot more fun to race and watch when it's more balanced.
  

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Reply #21 - 12/24/19 at 3:00pm
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The addition of the big berms, droppy bits, and the A/B line climb options got me stoked enough to do the whole series again last year.

I gotta say that the more it stays the same, the more it feels like a "time to make the donuts" situation.

If I wanted the same thing over and over ad nauseam until I'm ded, I'd buy a road bike and hit the Booty Loop.

There's a good reason that I've been showing up to short track work days ever since this thing started back in... 2004?
  

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Reply #22 - 01/13/20 at 2:04pm
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Spread the word...Sierra Nevada is a great sponsor of the Winter Short Track Series. They are also an official sponsor of the THTB Heckler Garden at A-Line B-Line. Make sure your membership is up to date and active because we will be onsite pouring some sweet "swag" for THTB Members. But don't worry, if you sign up to become a member while at the race you will also be poured some "swag". We will be roping off an official heckle garden to contain the fun. 

Also, rumor has it Jake will also be cooking up some bacon, burger, or maybe even chicken Hand Ups some weeks. 

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pearl wrote on 12/11/19 at 3:45am:
crap, I need to start riding again

yup, didn't start riding again
  

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You don’t need to ride to heckle
  

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if im comin im racin sons
  

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Short track swag has arrived.
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Your giving away a dog???
  
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no, but unattended children will be given 2 espresso shots and a free puppy.
  

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Arrived? Getting Beer delivered to the house I guess is a perk of doing the club books😁
  
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Unfit Pearl is > “fit” WearsMyBike
  

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Reply #31 - 01/20/20 at 1:33am
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Dude you gapped me hard on the singletrack! You were ripping! I’ll try and get some of the video cut for ya

Unfit or not, that super sport race was STACKED and that was probably the biggest field I’ve ever seen at that category. 

This has definitely got me focused to be fit again, let’s see how it goes from here!
  

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An 'unfit pearl' is a relative term!

Wanted to post here with some feedback I received from a few of our team that were there today.  Many of them are new to racing.  The impression they got from the THTB tent was vulgar music, excessive drinking, and heckling to 'pedal fat dude' to some of the kids.  I wasn't on the course, was in the pit area to attend to wrenching and needs like that.  Did get text messages tonight asking to talk with Neal about it but wanted to post here first.  I think the actions of a few (probably not those who frequent here but are probably known by club members) have hurt the name of the club.  Wanted to share this in hopes that the current uninvolved riders and the next generation of riders will hop on board.  Please give thought to the free flowing beer and vibes put forth by the club.  We at our shop are doing everything possible to further the cause of the club and the sport.  Please consider.  Thank you!

Edit- on a positive note, I think this was the highest attendance of racers to date!  Was super stoked to see so many people out there battling it out!!!  Let's keep it going strong!
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I’ll have a talk with the folks. The music, not THTB but regardless the speaker was placed under the tent so it’s our responsibility. It’s amazing the actual lyrics which get censored once over the air. The Heckling, it’s love/hate. I have a rule that I only having biting comments for people I know personally. But an outsider who does not know I know a person, my comments can sound pretty bad. For women’s, juniors, and beginners it’s  positive comments only. And during the clysdale race, which is the only none junior or women’s race I was at the tent is was all positive. That said it here are others who may not represent THTB unfairly representing us by proximity only. And the official THTB reps took a day away from their own families to support the race and racers.
  

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Thanks for the perspective. The music wasn't ours and I wasn't really paying attention to it, but I reached out and asked that they do more family-friendly music in the future. Also keep in mind that many people bring beer, and many people on that hill are not Trailblazers. We only brought a handful of six packs for a very long day. I'd echo what Brian said, that it seemed most of the "heckling" was saved for more advanced races or people we knew (except in my case, where I was repeatedly shamed for taking the B-line  Cry ). On the plus side, I had quite a few people come by the tent for good conversation, gave away a bunch of stickers and sold a few tech tees. Nobody has won Shaq-Fu though...
  
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The Heckling, it’s love/hate. I have a rule that I only having biting comments for people I know personally. But an outsider who does not know I know a person, my comments can sound pretty bad. For women’s, juniors, and beginners it’s positive comments only.


This should be the rule for all heckling. If you know someone personally and would say those things directly to their face, it's fair game. I have some mean friends though.

Shockingly, everyone was very nice to me, which was strange this go around? Or maybe I don't have any friends? I guess because I was pack fodder they felt bad Tongue
  

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Cool. Just wanted to bring up what some impressions were to me. I got almost no heckling in the single speed category, which was surprising. My post was less about that, as it can’t be controlled by the club but more of a perception about the club from the tent area and handing out of the adult beverages.  One described it to me as feeling like a ‘frat party’. Again, I really wanted to bring it up as what can be perceived, especially by those with kids who seem to be more sensitive than I.
  

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I honestly appreciate the feedback. Lesson learned on the things we can control we will address.
  

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Heres my lap one, which was as good as it got for me yesterday.
  

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mountainbiker90 wrote on 01/20/20 at 3:02pm:
Cool. Just wanted to bring up what some impressions were to me. I got almost no heckling in the single speed category, which was surprising. My post was less about that, as it can’t be controlled by the club but more of a perception about the club from the tent area and handing out of the adult beverages.  One described it to me as feeling like a ‘frat party’. Again, I really wanted to bring it up as what can be perceived, especially by those with kids who seem to be more sensitive than I.


That is the way it has always been and helps kick up the excitement in the winter time....... Thats the Short Track mud & sh*t personality so to speak. My fat arse might have to get some again, its been way too long
  

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For the next race keep everything the same, just tape "Bike PASA" over the sides of the club tent.   Wink
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Nope too late. We're playing Baby Shark for 8 hours straight Wink

Seriously though, the feedback has been good. I must confess I was not ready for the amount of kids that came to the tent, and we'll make sure we're ready to better engage with them going forward. Stickers and whatever else I can get my hands on. Espresso shots and puppies maybe.
  
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How about a "hell yeah" to the TTB for dumping a whole lotta volunteer time and club money into a HUGE new bridge, lots of fresh all-weathering of the course, refreshing worn-out features, and all the other effort that went into getting everything ready for 2020?

TTB can't take credit for all the music, beer, and heckling, but they can just keep doing the thankless grunge work getting things prepared for the hundreds of race participants every year.

It's unfortunate that the TTB would get them blame for something based on proximity.  Beer, friendly heckling, loud music (I can remember Lucky Cycles and the boombox years), and fun have been a part of it ever since it started fifteen plus years ago.  At least nobody had smoke bombs... again.
  

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I think we can all agree looking back the smoke bombs, while awesome to see racers emerging from, was the best bad heckling idea.
  

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Yes smoke bombs are a bad idea but not as bad as the year some guy brought out the airhorn. I had to let him know that if he blew that horn in my ear one more time I was gong to shove that horn past his ass starting at his mouth. 

I do think it's time for the rubber snakes and the pinata to make a comeback.

I was really happy to hear everyone cheering on my oldest son (age 6 1/2) as he pushed his bike up the A line for 3 laps. He did say later that a lot of people were giving him support and cheering him on in that area which almost brought a tear to my eye. 

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Reply #45 - 01/21/20 at 12:23pm
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teamdicky wrote on 01/21/20 at 12:17am:
How about a "hell yeah" to the TTB for dumping a whole lotta volunteer time and club money into a HUGE new bridge, lots of fresh all-weathering of the course, refreshing worn-out features, and all the other effort that went into getting everything ready for 2020?

TTB can't take credit for all the music, beer, and heckling, but they can just keep doing the thankless grunge work getting things prepared for the hundreds of race participants every year.

It's unfortunate that the TTB would get them blame for something based on proximity.  Beer, friendly heckling, loud music (I can remember Lucky Cycles and the boombox years), and fun have been a part of it ever since it started fifteen plus years ago.  At least nobody had smoke bombs... again.



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Reply #46 - 01/21/20 at 2:55pm
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As a Fat Fifty chugging up the A line in beginners/clydes, the heckling was spot on and well appreciated Wink and also nothing but positive when I went through

I thought about skipping it as the burn set in, but I didn't want to let down the crowd  Grin

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Reply #47 - 01/21/20 at 3:38pm
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Alright, I am definitely coming to heckle! Haven't had a lap of Rennie in years and excited to see what the city gnomes have built. Props to the volunteers, clydesdales, single speeders, hardcores, and kid racers who participate. 
  

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Reply #48 - 01/21/20 at 10:23pm
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Definitely encourage more for the kids at the tent.  Saw a couple of them come up to spin the wheel but get told that it's almost all beer options.  They looked disappointed.  Stickers with web site address on it would be great and remind them where to look for trail open and close.   

The music has actually gotten a little tamer of the past couple of years, I don't hear the stuff with "bangin' b*tches" and "cappin' m*f'ers" much, but there were some pretty hard lyrics that came through around the time that the kids were lining up.  Saw some wide eyes when they heard it.

Overall, still love the vibe, and let's keep it fun for all.
  
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Reply #49 - 01/22/20 at 12:32pm
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I watched multiple riders leave the heckling section with smiles on their faces.  Some were even laughing.
  
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Reply #50 - 01/22/20 at 6:16pm
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I usually come through the heckle zone laughing, crying, exhausted, or all 3.

As fellow hecklers we need to remember that the kids are the future of our sport, and we want parents bringing them back.

Parents buy lots of bikes, shoes, shorts and helmets as those kids grow up.  On the flip side, folks probably don't know who the THTB are, or how much effort they put in.  A little dialogue always helps.

I actually had several people cheering me through the A-line, which makes it much harder to be a slacker and pull over, roll-up into a ball, and start crying about how much my legs and lungs hurt.

Great turn out and a fun (painful?) race.  See everyone Sunday as I fight tooth and nail for mid-pack in +50 with the other geriatrics.



  
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watch me have the worst start in the history of starts, followed by me chasing one of the strongest riders in the area... on a gravel bike Tongue
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Reply #53 - 01/27/20 at 3:04pm
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Another great day for a race.  Especially enjoyed the 'only positive comments' heckle directed towards me. Made me chuckle. I think the whole attitude of the area was probably different this week. Didn't spend any time there but never heard any gripes from the parents  of kids on our team. Good work all!
  

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Reply #54 - 01/27/20 at 3:06pm
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Wondering if anyone got a photo of me riding under the deflating finish line bridge in +50?  I ducked under right about the moment the big inflatable bridge turned into a giant semi-inflated "M".  I know there are some tricky obstacles in short track, but that took the cake!

I'm still struggling with getting passed in the parking lot only to be held up in the woods.   

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I couldn’t resist....

Side note: please be aware I am pulling up the carpet this week in the berms.  It suddenly reached the end of its life where two weeks ago it provided amazing traction while protecting trail features to being a slippery danger almost overnight. I watched a wreck happen directly attributable to the carpet, have heard a number of wash out stories which all sram to have happened in the carpet, and side slide almost every time though the corners.  So it’s time...
  

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The pea gravel in that one section also sketches me out too, I was gonna go out at midnight and rake it or something Wink
  

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I plan to sweep that too. Not sure who put it there, i get what they were trying to do, but its stupid loose without benefit so i sweep off the larger stuff to get rubber down to the grippy stuff.
  

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I couldn’t resist....

Side note: please be aware I am pulling up the carpet this week in the berms.  It suddenly reached the end of its life where two weeks ago it provided amazing traction while protecting trail features to being a slippery danger almost overnight. I watched a wreck happen directly attributable to the carpet, have heard a number of wash out stories which all sram to have happened in the carpet, and side slide almost every time though the corners.  So it’s time...



Week one victim here.  Was never like that before.  Much excite tho.

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Reply #59 - 01/27/20 at 7:37pm
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I had a few fantastic two wheel drifts in the carpet last week and this week.  I thought it was just my blazing corner speed.

Perhaps not.

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AMitchell47 wrote on 01/27/20 at 3:06pm:
I'm still struggling with getting passed in the parking lot only to be held up in the woods.


That is easy to fix, it's not fun to fix, but it is easy to do.
  

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e-Bike?



One brave soul might have tried this back in 2017 when a group of idiots said they'd pay his entry fee to race Super Sport.  He had to start in the back and not interfere with real "racers."  He was doing a great job of making up ground and moving through the pack, but alas, his noble effort was foiled by the authorities when they discovered his ruse.

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interesting, im curious how an e-bike would actually do.
  

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pearl wrote on 01/30/20 at 7:31pm:
interesting, im curious how an e-bike would actually do.



The rate at which he was moving through the field (after holding back on lap one), I'd say pretty damn well.
  

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Yeah I was pretty pissed off at that guy. He messed up the whole dynamics of that race. If the course was entirely in the woods then he would have been a non factor. With the old course of full length gravel road onto to the asphalt then back in the woods he was making up a 20 second deficit every time and then more later in the race. I was the one who called him out to Neal and had him ejected. I'm all for people who need to ride electric but I am not for anyone who wants to enter a race against human powered bikes.

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Reply #66 - 01/31/20 at 5:53pm
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santana wrote on 01/31/20 at 2:21am:
Yeah I was pretty pissed off at that guy. He messed up the whole dynamics of that race. If the course was entirely in the woods then he would have been a non factor. With the old course of full length gravel road onto to the asphalt then back in the woods he was making up a 20 second deficit every time and then more later in the race. I was the one who called him out to Neal and had him ejected. I'm all for people who need to ride electric but I am not for anyone who wants to enter a race against human powered bikes.

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This; non WTS and non roadies do not understand the draft advantage he was giving (or could have been giving - I wasn't there) not only super sport but expert riders who drafted off him.

  
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Reply #67 - 01/31/20 at 5:57pm
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The e-bike is probably second only to the smoke bombs as the greatest dumb idea to happen at short track.
  

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nothing beats when the experts lap you in super sport and you get that KILLER draft... 

one day maybe ill give out that draft.
  

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I still like the e-bike entry.  might have been the beers back then, and probably is the the beers right now.
  

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If enough riders would commit to racing in an Bike class then perhaps one can be created. I would enjoy watching riders sitting upright drinking a beverage while on the gravel road and still doing 25 mph.

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make the ebike race at the end of the day after the expert races Tongue
  

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santana wrote on 02/01/20 at 1:21am:
If enough riders would commit to racing in an Bike class then perhaps one can be created. I would enjoy watching riders sitting upright drinking a beverage while on the gravel road and still doing 25 mph.

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They would have to wear masks however, since they would all be too embarrassed to be photographically recognized Smiley  I mean really... e-bikes on a flat trail?

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I like the idea of an ebike class but there is just not enough room in the schedule for it. We start at 7am and usually roll out at 5:15 - 5:30. No thanks on making the day longer.
  
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Everyone likes seeing people crash, right?

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Ill be out there wed to pull the carpet....
  

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im not sure the carpet was to blame, I think I biffed it before I got to the carpet LOL
  

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I forgot to ask this last week after  race 2, but during the Master Race a racer smacked a tree on the downhill before the original drop (near the bottom of the creek below A/B line. Broke his front wheel and 90% certain he broke his right colar bone. I never got his name, but does anyone know who he is and how he is doing?
  

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Wears my bike wrote on 02/04/20 at 12:33am:
I forgot to ask this last week after  race 2, but during the Master Race a racer smacked a tree on the downhill before the original drop (near the bottom of the creek below A/B line. Broke his front wheel and 90% certain he broke his right colar bone. I never got his name, but does anyone know who he is and how he is doing?



Master as in 50+?

I think I saw Clay Daniels walking outta the woods at Race 2... and pretty sure he went down near the sendy drop.

EDIT: Confirmed but only sorta.  He did wreck and DNF.  Not broken but solidly bruised at the race.
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It's official now, Brian Bradley builds dangerous trails with the intent to harm dirt roadies at any cost.

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It's official now, Brian Bradley builds dangerous trails with the intent to harm dirt roadies at any cost.

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Funny not so funny part being that he got even more hurt the next Saturday... on a road ride.
  

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Truth..but also fix things for Pearl so he no crash, then he no show. So now I’m going to make harder again.
  

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Truth..but also fix things for Pearl so he no crash, then he no show. So now I’m going to make harder again.


Truf!! 

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He even did a roadie yesterday. Boo!!!

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wasn't feeling it Saturday evening, i should have rode more over the winter. time to sharpen the axe!
  

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Who does feel like it Saturday??  What better way to get quicker?  See yas SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!
  

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It's a year away, but for those that were wondering: I had a quick conversation with Neil yesterday, and he along w/ Start2Finish 100% intend to continue the Winter Short Track series. Also sounded like they might be exploring other mtb events in the future.
  
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Good to hear!  I was thinking that S2F would continue it but without Neal. I really hope Neal stays involved. He is a great promoter and knows almost all of the racers and offers insightful commentary over the PA system.  It's the kind of stuff that shows he knows and cares about the people.
  

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It's a year away, but for those that were wondering: I had a quick conversation with Neil yesterday, and he along w/ Start2Finish 100% intend to continue the Winter Short Track series. Also sounded like they might be exploring other mtb events in the future.



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If they make it longer will it still be short track?  Or medium track?
  
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Just asking, anyone know if the final results will be posted for this year's Winter Short Track Series? The final races points, results & team points where never posted.....& being it was one of the only race series to actually be completed this year thus far, inquiring minds, a Mom & our Grom's would love to know.... Wink

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Re: 2020 Short Track Is Coming
Reply #94 - 04/07/20 at 1:34am
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Talked with Neal today. He did send the results to S2F but was not sure why final results did not get posted. He will reach out and inquire about having S2F post them but cannot give a time line due to the Corona shutdown. 

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Re: 2020 Short Track Is Coming
Reply #95 - 12/08/20 at 11:24am
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Is the 2021 Short track Coming?  I don't see anything on the start2finish site.
  

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Re: 2020 Short Track Is Coming
Reply #96 - 12/08/20 at 7:13pm
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I’ll wait for 2022.
  

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